On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:43:20 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
Horrible choice. What is sold as para cord has a poly jacket and will
be shredded by the sun in short order
There may be a nylon para cord somewhere but it is not what most of
these "surplus" places sell. BTDT.
Regular nylon seems to hold up pretty well on my boat and it is in the
sun 12 months a year.
I guess there are lots of aftermarket knockoffs of the 550 paracord. The
true cord that meets mil spec should hold up well. I have had some up around
10 years holding up a wire around 130 feet long between trees for 2 of my
ham radio wire antennas.
Here is what is said for the true paracord.
a.. ? FEATURES OF THIS MIL-SPEC PARACORD 550: 100% Nylon, EIGHT (not
seven!) removable twisted inner strands, each made up of THREE (not two!)
twisted inside strands. Includes a visible Manufacturer's Colored
Identification Marker Strand of either GREEN or YELLOW. Preshrunk, and will
not rot or mildew. Resists ultra-violet light, abrasion and tangling.
Average breaking strength is in excess of 600 pounds.
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Yes. I would hang the clothes at the window, and then roll the line down
and reverse that flow to bring the clothes back.
That's why it doesn't matter how high the line is, except to point out
that you can't reach it from the ground.
I've lived in a house with a clothes line on a pulley running to a
pulley on a tree 30 feet away. Even at 30 feet, there was a lot of
tension on the line and a lot of sag. It meant carrying a basket of
laundry upstairs and leaning out a window to work. Working that way was
a little slow, and there was always a risk of falling out. Hanging
large items was tricky, and it would mean a lot of tension on the line
when a large item was moved out 15 feet. The open window would let in
cold or hot air.
I've got a couple of posts 30 feet apart in the yard. The crossbars can
hold 4 lines. That's quicker, safer, and more convenient than a pulley
upstairs. I wish the posts were closer; at 30 feet, there's a lot of
tension on the posts.
The posts are obstacles to mowing and recreation. The house with the
upstairs pulley also had an umbrella-style dryer in the back yard.
That's the quickest, most convenient, and safest. You stand in one
place with the basket on a portable table. The speed is a blessing if
it's starting to rain. When you don't need it, you collapse it and lean
it in a corner.
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:43:20 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:
I have 1,000 feet of the black parachute cord!
That's a great idea, but it seems to be too thin to hold a typical
Does line that thin (about the thickness of a dress shoe shoelace) work
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:27:34 -0500, Jason Marshall
That is why I suggested braided nylon up around note 2 or 3.
5/16 would hold a clothes pin nicely and be easy on the hands when you
were rolling it in and out.
If you use the pulley and weight to tension it you will have a lot of
capability to handle stretch and sag.
Well, it is in central Florida on the ridge so the "soil" is sand with
some organic material in the top 6" or so. They are maybe 5' above the
water level in a nearby pond but water surface level can go up and down
like a yo-yo...I've seen it vary as much as 9' from one year to the next;
that's abnormal but 3' year to year isn't.
The thing is, both trees are at the same - or close to same - elevation
growing in the same soil. And close together.
Nah, both are live oaks but a lot of Florida live oaks are hybrids.
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:12:19 -0400, gfretwell wrote:
I went to Home Depot today, and they had a 1/4" package labeled
"clothesline" made up of polyester/polypropylene at $18.21 for
The only thing they had larger than 1/4 size was this almost
empty roll of 5/16th cotton/polyester "All Purpose Clothesline"
at $0.19 per foot:
Or, would you go with the 1/4" nylon/polyester next to it?
Unfortunately, the *only* pulleys Home Depot had were plastic:
I would like a six-inch pulley (to keep the two lines apart)
but the biggest I could find was four inches in diameter, in
plastic (which, I think, won't last a year).
The largest steel pulley I could find was half that width!
BTW, do you just *knot* the two ends? Or is there a graceful
way to connect the two ends so that they can go through the
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:20:11 -0700, Pavel314 wrote:
I just realized the pulleys only have enough room for the rope itself.
Do you *knot* the ends?
If you knot them, they won't go through the pulleys.
Also, do you use bigger pulleys (ot keep the ropes apart)?
You don't want the knot to go through the pulleys. If the knot goes
through, your clothes will go next.
Sag will keep the ropes well apart. If you have 10 pounds of clothes 50
feet from the house and the sag is 5 feet, that will be 50 pounds on the
line and 100 pounds on each pulley.
If the sag is 1 foot, that will be 250 pounds on the line and 500 pounds
on each pulley.
If you can transplant the trees 10 feet from the bathroom window, that
will mean less strain on the line and pulleys. If you can hook the
house pulley to an interior wall, you can hang and remove the laundry
standing inside the house... much faster and safer than leaning out a
Use four pulleys mounted horizontally, two at each end...you can mount
each pair as far apart as you want.
However, what you want to do seems pretty infeasible to be. Yes, you can
hang a "chinese anchor" to tension the lines but if you hang much -
especially sheets and towels - you are going to need a HEAVY weight.
My bad. Vinyl coated wire.
At first I thought you were joking, but when I saw the coated wire
in the store, I realized you were serious.
Besides the fact it will last forever outside in the sun, what
is the advantage of the wire over the rope?
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