That made me laugh! Thanks.
I think I'm only going to respond though, to the posts that aren't already in the dirt (the fwd is in the dirt, the warp is in the dirt, the piston rings is in the dirt, and the drilled rotors are in the dirt).
But there was a lot more in this thread than those few topics.
I learned a LOT from you all. Thanks.
I haven't touched any part of my brakes for 4 years.
Older brother had ma '61 - and he collapsed the front suspension on the job-site (basically a gravel pit) the day before thanksgiving. We had a scrap one at the garage where I was apprenticing, so I cut it out, threw it, my tools and a torch set into my Dad's van and went up and rolled in the cold wet mud on thanksgiving day to but the "new" suspension under it. Then my kid brother used it for a few years as a "field car" on his friend's farm, and after breaking its back tried to blow up the flatty my putting a btick on the accellerator. Got it so hot it siezed several times, but it would always restart when it cooled down. Towing it to the dump behind a '58 Merc tow truck with a
312 in it, it dropped itself into low gear at about 50, and slowly forced the towtruck to downshift to second before scattering coolant and oil all over the road as several rods went throgh the block and pan
I've owned ONE new car in my life (actually a truck) - 1976 Dodge Ramcharger SE.
Did you even *read* that paper? Or did you just look at the pretty pictures?
It didn't cover ring complexity any more than a high-school student would.
That's a fact.
If you read the paper, then show me where in that paper it covered
*anything* the least bit complex about piston rings?I'm waiting....
Ford and Chrysler dealers I worked for amc/Mazda/ Jeep and Toyota.
I've always said it's what you learn AFTER you know it all that REALLY counts - - -
Correction.
"I never said that the design of *anything* /isn't/ super complex at the stage of designing the perfect system."
People with nice shiney wheels???
The friction between the pads and bare steel rotors is much different than the friction between the pads and the pad material deposited on the pads. The latter is the higher.
That was a good one. Mind if I borrow it when my wife asks me to clean up the house?
Did any of you actually *read* that paper?
I did.
It doesn't say what you imply it says.
Show me the slightest bit of technical on-topic merit that paper had with respect to how piston rings are better now than they were in the days of yore.
There isn't a *single* statement in that *entire* paper that backs up
*anything* you said it did.Nothing. And you expect me to believe because I'm an engineer and you're a mechanic that you know more than I do about basic adult logic?
The fact of what we're trained in has *nothing* to do with the way our brains think.
You think a high school level paper proves *something* about how piston rings are designed better today than in yesteryear.
And yet, there's *nothing* in that entire paper about what you imply it proves. Nothing.
Let's give up because you think I'm stupid and I think your paper doesn't prove what you think it proves.
I think you need a few hundred courses in basic adult logic. And you think I need all the years of experience that you have.
Let's leave it at that.
People that do not have a TV tend to have a superiority complex. Sure,
95% of it is crap, but there are some excellent shows on History, Discovery, Science that will broaden your horizons and educate you about the rest of the world.
If the friction rating of a brake pad is too much information for someone choosing a brake pad ...
... then I have to wonder ... if friction isn't important ...
What kind of primary logic are they using to choose brake pads if it's not friction?
Oh... I see. I get it. Marketing bullshit.
I give up when someone complains that the friction coefficient of a brake pad is too much information when choosing a brake pad.
It isn't a logical thought process. I can't fix that. Even on the Usenet. I just can't.
I don't have any crescent wrenches, and would never buy one. I used them as kid on my bicycles. The last time I used one was when I was working for a plumber 35 years ago, and that's what he used for valve compression fittings. I couldn't fault him for that, but if I carried my own tools on that job I would have brought some open end wrenches with me.
Ask me *anything* about "history, discovery, science, and the rest of the world".
What makes you think that only watching TV will gain you that information?
No one can teach you anything as you know everything.
Yup. The ones I see using them are the fix-it guys that come to the house, less and less lately, as I do more and more since I have all the time in the world now.
I taught my kids and grandkids to use the right tool for the right job.
For example, a screwdriver is for screws. Nothing else. A pair of pliers is for things that you don't have wrenches for.
And I can't think of any good reason most of the time for an adjustable wrench, although it's valid if you're hanging upside down out of a hotair balloon where the correct socket or open-end or box wrench is down on the ground next to the parts truck.
12 volt systems will NOT "short out" in water. I know guys that used old heater motors as electric trolling motors. Being water cooled they can run an old 6 volt motor on 24 without burning them out and get lots of power out of them.
I "service" my disc brakes at least once a year.
You think that because I asked you to think logically like an adult would.
You think I'm stupid because I don't have your experience. You think everything you say is right because you have that experience.
OK. Let's just leave it at that, because I *read* that paper, and it doesn't say what you and the other guy (I don't look at names) claim it says.
So you have experience on your side. I have simple factual logic on mine.
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