OT: Public transport

May 02, 2023 Last reply: 2 years ago 198 Replies

Can't we just get rid of public transport? I asked Google Maps for a route from my house to somewhere I want to go on holiday.


2 hours by car, 6 hours by public transport. Dafuq?

Even more ridiculous, 6 hours by public transport, 7 hours by bicycle! Public transport is hardly faster than a bicycle!


1 day on foot! Trains go a whole 4 times faster than me walking!

Just close them down.



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In the May Scientific American there was an article about public transport. They point to Seattle as a place where it works. You just have to set it up right and run it frequently enough.

Bill

A taxi is also Public Transport.

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What about rental cycles and eScooters?

A mate and some friends spent a long weekend at a beer festival in Munich and said they were fantastic. Pick some up from where you are, activate them via the app, go where you want and log out and leave them. If you come out of a place (typically a tourist attraction) and the scooters you had were gone, there would generally be some a short distance away.

He said the difference between there and say where they have trialled here in the UK is respect and social responsibility.

They weren't left all over the footpath but out of the way, up against a wall or fence.

They were never found damaged, especially vandalised and any that were left a bit out of the way or too flat to use were collected up and / or the battery replaced for a fully charged one.

I have reported many of the 'Boris / Santander' hire bikes abandoned here (well outside of their typical patch) and they are always recovered pretty promptly (before the local scum destroy them).

When did parents stop teaching the respect for other peoples property to their children, as can generally seen by all the damage and graffiti on all sorts of public transport and property?

Cheers, T i m

For those not aware about Scotland, Braemar is a small rural town. Public transport in large mostly rural and mountainous region like Scotland is either gonna be limited or expensive.

The efficiencies of a NA city don't translate.

Stop cross posting your baby bullshit to s.e.d! We have plenty of our own baby bullshit here that we prefer.

Bicyclists often smell like the ass-end of a menstruatin' skunk, so there's that.

I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left

5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn't another for 95 minutes.

Ski areas often have part-time, usually retired, bus drivers, working mostly at peak times. Lots of small busses with part-time drivers would be great, but the unions wouldn't allow it.

A lot of retired people would be happy to get out a few hours a day and be helpful.

San Franciso used to have swarms of "jitneys", small private vans to move people around. The politicians and unions made them illegal.

The War On Poverty deliberately created an underclass of fatherless kids.

On May 2, 2023 at 9:49:52 AM MST, "John Larkin" wrote snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Huh? Cite?

What can we conclude from that?

Choose one: Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90 minutes for a bus or If more people took the bus they would run them more frequently so the wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost effective.

On May 2, 2023 at 10:40:06 AM MST, "Ed P" wrote <WVb4M.556642$ snipped-for-privacy@fx47.iad:

Right. And to get it going it may need to run at a loss... though that "loss" really is still a gain for society and the environment.

When I worked in Boston I would drive down from NH Sunday night and park the car until my escape on Friday. Apparently Boston hasn't made that observation yet. I rented apartments in various locations including Allston, Somerville, and Beacon Hill. Walking was faster than messing around with the MBTA. I wasn't a barhopper but if you were you had to remember that while the bars closed at 2, the trains went to bed at 1.

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When I worked on Wall Street NYC during the 1980's I would walk by the same cars on the street with tickets on them. Every day. Same cars. It finally occurred to me that paying the parking tickets cost less than renting garage space. Go figure.

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The electric buses are a real improvement on the clunkers burning biodiesel. Nothing like being behind one of those on a bike when it belches out a big black cloud.

I keep promising myself to take a joy ride on one someday.

Oh, yeah. If you read carefully one thing the Mountain Line is very, very good at is getting grants. Our two senators might fight tooth and nail on most issues but they're very good at bringing home the bacon.

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Maybe Nick Chiles has the cites.

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The Atlanta Black Star leans left.

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Of course you won't believe Black people who aren't left wing.

On May 2, 2023 at 6:59:31 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>:

I have been there. Or walking near them.

Are they of the same party?

On May 2, 2023 at 7:36:01 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>:

None of that says it was designed that way. But look at the points:

  • Disincentive for marrying. Yeah, that is dumb.
  • Next is a myth. Not even a part of a program.
  • A claim about how black unwed fathers are treated. An opinion. No policy statement.
  • Noting a correation but no causation, at the start. Then talks about how when women are given the means to not be as dependant this leads to men not being depended on. OK.
  • A policy... this about how to get help the government wants to know the mother and father. Would you not want this? But the system could be set so there were fewer risks / panalties. OK.
  • How fathers are seen. Truth to it... but not tied to policy about poverty.
  • An opinion about the impact on men. Not policy.

Might look at others later.

I do not even know how to parse that sentence to have it make any sense and be tied to my views. Can you?

No. Jon Tester is a Democrat, Steve Daines is a Republican. On some things Tester is a better Republican than a lot of the RINOs. He hasn't committed yet but he, Manchin, and Sinema may sink Julie Su. A Democrat in a red state who is up for election next year has to walk a fine line. He is vulnerable and knows it.

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