OT. Jaguar Recall

[Dean Hoffman]

It isn't just the cheap (relatively speaking) vehicles with problems.

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That is reason I will never buy an EV. It is not like gasoline that requires oxygen to keep burning and all the energy is self contained in the battery. A fire in attached garage means bye bye house.

The Chevy Bolt recall for similar issue resulted in a fix that did not allow a full battery charge and now there is a class action suit as buyers cannot get the original range they paid for.

[Dean Hoffman]

I don't see that the U.S. cutting its carbon dioxide output will do much good in the long run. There aren't that many of us compared to the total world population. One can't blame all of those people for wanting life a little easier. That will take energy. Even a little improvement in each ones life will override whatever the U.S. is doing in cutting CO2 output. Farming is a lot more productive and more efficient due to fossil fuels.

[Scott Lurndal]

Clearly the entire world _must_ reduce carbon dioxide emissions, for it to have any positive effect. Most of the industrialized world is, indeed, targeting reduced emission.

Yet the united states alone emits 30% of the world's carbon dioxide, with only five percent of the global population. Just imagine how much worse it would be if the entire world were emitting the same per-capita amount?

Not that there is enough fossil fuel to support that level of energy consumption anyway.

More precisely, due to the fertilizers derived from natural gas and the power used to automate farming operations. The former produces less CO2 than burning the natural gas, and the latter can be replaced with non fossil fuel based alternatives in the next several decades. Note, however that other forms of fertilizer (phosphates and potassium) rely on energy in general, not fossil fuels in particular.

Fundamentally, the historic energy growth rate of 2.8% per annum is exponential, and therefore unsustainable, and due to the mathematics of eponential growth, when the curve starts upwards, it goes up quickly - the last two doublings yield 75% of the total (and result in a surface temperature higher than the boiling point of water over the entire planet).

Here's an entry-level college textbook that deep dives on energy growth now, and in the future, the introductory chapters discuss the mathematics underlying exponential growth - in a very accessible fashion - you don't need to be a math geek to understand it.

[Ed P]

Perhaps you should go back to a bicycle

How often do electric vehicles catch fire? Overall, EVs are about 0.3 percent likely to ignite, versus a 1.05 percent likelihood for gas cars, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics and the National Transportation Safety Board compiled by Auto Insurance EZ last year.

[pedro]

Yabut 0.3 percent mortality was a big deal back when the demonrats were pushing big pharma's covid 'vaccine' scam. Funny how that works.

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Uh huh

"At issue is the high density of the batteries, which is a double-edged sword, said Pecht, who also serves as director of the Center for Advanced Life Cycle Engineering, a university research center that consults with companies on reliability and safety issues, including batteries.

"They can provide a lot of power to our cell phones and to our computers for a relatively long period of time in a very small volume," he said. "But because we have so much energy packed in that small volume, if there is a problem, then they're very flammable."

[micky]

That makes no sense. There was no 0.3 percent mortality from any vaccine. IIRC there were either 2 or 3 deaths early on, all in women between 22 and 29 who had been given the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, and as soon as those deaths were noticed, they stopped giving that particular vaccine to women under 40. No more deaths. Then I think they stopped using that vaccine altogether. No more deaths. Out of between one and four billion people vaccinated, most more than once. So it's really under 0.0000001% mortality. HTH.

Also, wrt car fires, there is a big difference between ignition and mortality. Please review the difference and take your SATs again. You may do better this time.