In northern Illinois where I live, electricity is provided by ComEd.
However ComEd is really two companies. One delivers electricity and
the other generates electricity. In my last bill, that portion that
was billed for "Electricity Supply Services" accounted for only 55
percent of the total bill. As the guy who writes the checks, the
simple formula I use is Total Cost / kWh. This comes out to $0.149 per
kWh. On the bill the stated cost of a kWh is only $0.06968.
I have to pay for meter rental. $25 a month above the electric usage.
I have several electric meters in my garage which came off houses that
were being demolished. I called the power company and told them that
they can come get their meter, and I will use my own. Of course they
said they can not do that. When I asked why, they said that their meter
is the only kind that will work. I told them that my meter is exactly
the same kind, and I'll bring it to their office and show it to them.
After a big run-around on the phone, I had some guy who claimed to be
the president and he said that they are not allowed to use any meters
except their own, and that I am not allowed to use mine. When I asked
why, he said "sorry, that's the rule we must follow and I can not change
In other words, they can rip me off $25 a month just because they can!
That's $300 a year going in their pockets for a meter that probably only
cost them a one time fee of $100, and every year they take $300 for that
same meter. I'm seriously looking into my own generator along with
Just to add to this, a neighbor has 3 meters on his farm, and is paying
$75 a month for them. One is for his house, another for a rental house,
and the 3rd for his barn. He pays the electric for the rental house as
part of the rent, and all he has in his barn are lights and a few
heaters for his chickens. I told him to at least get rid of the barn
meter and put it on his own house meter. I'll be helping him do that
this summer. I also explained to him that he can put all 3 on the same
meter and still put his own meter (after the one from the power company)
to monitor what the tenants use. He'll be saving $50 a month / $600 a
Even if you found the regulatory loophole that would allow you to use your own
meter, they would charge you a large "inspection" fee to validate that the meter
is acceptable and then a monthly "insurance" or some other type of fee
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:21:22 -0700 (PDT), " email@example.com"
I think it pure robbery. After all, the meter is there for THEIR
benefit. Electricity could enter my buildings without a meter. Sure I
understand they need a method to determine usage, but I dont believe
there should be any fee for the meter. They make their money off of the
sale of the electric. This is the same as if everytime I went to
Walmart I had to pay to enter the store, and then pay for the
This is one of those rural ripoff coops!
Coops used to mean that everyone played a part in the ownership, but
these days it's only a select few that make all the decisions. Yet they
were more than happy to build a brand new HUGE building for the company,
and added every luxury available, while their old building was perfectly
fine, and now, 6 or 7 years later that old bldg still sits empty, and
will probably be demolished in a few more years rather than selling it
or leasing it, to help pay off the new bldg. Worse yet, they light up
the whole outside of the fancy new bldg at night with flood lights to
show it off, and mostly only local residents even see it. Yet they keep
sending notices that we should conserve energy. How about they heed
their own advice. One night I counted tthe lights. 18 in the parking
lot, and 24 on the building, not to mention all the lights left on
inside the bldg. (And no one is there at night). Aside from a few
security lights, none of these do any good for anyone, and all except
the security lights should be shut off as soon as they leave the
Our cabin is $38 a month, whether you actually use power or not
Usage is extra
Makes me wonder about putting in a generator behind the garage, in a
soundproof box and running it off Propane when we are there.
Typical use in daytime is fridge, freezer, water pump, water heater, some
The problem is that the break-even would be a few years out
It may also reduce the resale value of the cabin.
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 08:52:21 -0700 (PDT), " firstname.lastname@example.org"
You'll be waiting a very long time!!!!
For all I know, you are one of these online identity thefts.
Like I really care if you're skeptical.
I'm saying what I pay, and care less whether you believe it or not.
Why not start checking the websites of electric coops and see what they
all charge and do. Be sure to report back!
Yes, the gas company here (East Ohio Gas Co.) makes such claims. And, I
have to say that I don't recall ever having the gas supply fail in my 50+
years. I have seen the gas company replace rusted pipes in several areas of
the city and, of course, they had to deal with a disaster last year when a
pressure regulator became faulty, put excessive gas pressure on the lines in
one area and started several house fires. Maintenance of infrastructure was
much talked about then.
They also have to swap out meters on a regular schedule
by law here in NJ. I'm not sure how the gas repair/replacement costs
compare to the electric utilities.
On the one hand they are a lot less susceptable to damage from storms
and the like. On the other hand
the repair work would seem to be a lot more involved,
ie excavating, pavement, etc compared to areas where
electric utilities are run on poles above ground. I would
expect that for gas, the overall repair costs are less.
You also have to factor in the cost of the distribution
system that is in place. They still have to depreciate
it, cover any debt that was taken out to install it, etc.
That's interesting. I have asked several times to get my gas meter
(which is inside in the basement) replaced with an outside meter here in
the PSE&G area. They've always said that I would have to pay for a new
meter. And I've said no, thanks.
Do you have a reference to that law or rule?
I'd venture to guess that maintenance for underground services is in the
long run less than overhead service. However, the initial investment is
much higher, even in densely populated areas such as the boro of Fair
Lawn. We have had 3 or 4 major electric outages of roughly 24 or more
hours in the last 2 or 3 years. All due to storms knocking down wires.
I pay a service charge of $5.99/month, and then a "distribution charge"
and "balancing charge" that go per "therm". These 3 are the delivery
charges. Together they are just under half of the total charges for gas
Can't help you with that. I do know that NJ Nat Gas swapped mine
out maybe 8 years ago. I recall receiving some notice that it was
due and required. I don't think that is going to have anything to do
with getting your meter relocated outside. Swapping a meter is
loosening two unions and takes 10 mins. Moving a meter outside
to a new location, that's a bit different.
All these utilities have to cover their costs one way or another. I
still skeptical of the poster claiming there was a $25 per month
charge for rental of an electric meter. Especially since he won't
tell us the utility name, because he thinks we're somehow going
to use that for identity theft. Go figure.
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