"[FLORIDA] The board of directors representing The Eagles, a deed restricted
community in Odessa, was trying to keep A.J. Vizzi from parking his Ford
pickup truck in his home's driveway. HOA rules state all trucks must be
parked in a garage."
Judge renders declaratory judgment in favor of truck owner, says HOA is
insane and must pay about $100,000 in legal fees. Take drug test.
Gee: At that rate they wouldn't even allow my rig through the gate! Or
the $800 camper I bought and rebuilt, that occasionally goes on the
back of it! One of these months we must wash it.
A few thousand miles away people are dying for lack of clean water and
we have HOA worrying about nonsense like this!
It's all very well to set reasonable 'standards' for safety and health
but ................ !
BTW in many places the ownership of a large pickup is a 'status
symbol'. Soon to change possibly as economic conditions fall,
pollution rises and energy costs escalate however?
Also BTW does this kind of thing not smack of the European snobbery?
If you can afford a carriage, a team of horses and pay driver/ostler
you are in. But if all you can afford is a horse and cart and you look
after the horse yourself you are somehow not so worthy!
Same thing today with driving an SUV or pickup (many of which are
mechanically similar anyway)!
We know someone driving a Cadillac Escalade which is similar,
mechanically, to a Chevy pickup truck.
USA "Land of the free and the brave ..... " eh?????
Methinks there is more to this story??????? Sounds like the HOA
refrred to should hold an election.
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:52:28 -0800 (PST), " email@example.com"
There are people who don't want anyone around them to upset their
little world with anything different than what their narrow mind finds
I wouldn't be shocked if this case is appealed. This fires a shot
across the bow of every HOA in Florida.
BTW truck restrictions are not that rare around here. In Cape Coral
you can't have a truck in your driveway by city ordinance.
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:38:46 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Cape Coral: A Boy Scout family was fined for setting up tents in a
front yard. Just for a day; after a camping trip, so the tents would
air-out. It started when "snow-birds" didn't go back North...
This was in the late '70's.
Wonder what kind of stroke the HOA would have were one to buy a junker
car, chop the top back off and remove the trunk lid, viola! a Pickup
but the registration will show it is a car.
Explain something to me. Someone buys a home in an HOA. Prior to buying
they are given the docs and sign a statement to abide by them. Then all of a
sudden they scream, kick and cry when one of the regs from the docs are
enforced. Please explain why that person bought in an HOA in the first
place if he didn't want to follow their rules. Don't get me wrong, I don't
like HOA's but I sure wouldn't buy in one if I disagreed with the docs and
had no intention of following them.
I believe in the case that hit fark.com recently (I assume that that is
what this thread is about) the home moaner actually did check out the
requirements before buying, but the ones being enforced are not the same
ones given to him to review pre-purchase. I think that he does have a
case if the facts are as represented in the article I read.
Oh, and HOA's suck.
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
Do you know the laws in Florida? Do you think that all laws are
obeyed precisely everywhere all the time?
You call yourself Sanity, for gosh sakes.
It's very risky to guaranty things when you don't know all the facts.
Don't imagine that the rules in your state are the same rules
I've lived in Florida and New York and North Carolina. If he went to
closing without a lawyer, which many people do, they he deserves whatever he
gets. A lawyer would have made sure he got the docs before he signed off to
them. In an HOA I lived in Florida, two weeks prior to closing and
interview was held with the prospective buyer. At that time it was ensured
that he received a copy of the docs and was told to read them and call if
there were any questions. If the buyer didn't read them and signed in the
blind, then he's the idiot.
Up until a few years ago it was illegal to park a "commercial vehicle"
forward of the building line anywhere on a residential property in
However, that bylaw got changed when it was proven unenforceable.
What constitutes a "commercial vehicle"? In years past ALL pickup
trucks were required to have the owner's name on them in Ontario. They
were all registered as commercial vehicles. Now names are no longer
required and they can be registered for personal use.
Still not supposed to park a moving van. tow-truck, livestock
carrier, etc in front of the house, but vans, pickups, and SUVs are
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:15:41 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
Wow. You should check out Texas, where all kinds of people drive
pickups, many for no apparent reason.
I live in a middle income townhouse n'hood. By now, it may be lower
middle income. But one guy drove a van, a panel truck, with his
company's name and phone number on the two front doors. And some of
the n'bors didn't like it. Did they have jobs any better than his?
He was a surveyor. A real one, not a surveyor's helper. Doesn't that
take quite a bit of training, and pay pretty well?
I finally solved the problem, at the HOA meeting. I suggested he get
a plain white -- his truck was white -- magnetic sheet, and cover the
writing on the doors when he got home at night. It was so stupid. I
wanted to tell the complainers how stupid I thought it was, but hey, I
have to live near these people.
That's what our town hall will make residents do. I believe one vehicle
is allowed with writing provided it's also for personal use. If there is a
second vechicle they make you remove the sign or cover it up.
And if he was given a false copy of the rules and signed thinking they
Another conspiracy theory. You are GIVEN a copy of the docs and you sign
off that you received them. No one slips a mickey to you.
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