When I bought my first brand new pickup < bare bones 1980 F100 >
- it was priced at $ 5800. I drove it for 13 years and wished that I'd bought 2 of them ! .. to get another vehicle that would cost less than $ 1000 per year ...
Here's a used 2020 Chevy that I would need to drive for about 40 years to get my money's worth .. :-)
John T.
I bought a new Dodge fall of '73. 4400 lbs, $4400 ! ;>) It plowed snow for 43 years till I finally parked it. I"m old now, hiring help. phil k.
That's about $70,000 USD but still crazy. Some years ago we had a 1986 F150 company truck. It was well used and beat, body wad dinged and rusted. The goal was to try and get $500 for it. First offer was $1200.
Amazing how many of those fancy new high priced trucks never carry more than a couple of bags of groceries.
I bought a F150 in '86 for around 10K. While it's semi-retired it still is road worthy and goes for a drive every now and then. I bought the Sportster in '97; that's way less than $1000 / yr.
My arbitrary $ 1000. per year criteria 1980's - 90's was for an everyday 4 season daily driver in Canada where road salt plays a considerable factor. My new 2015 Kia cost me ~ $ 23. grand and has a major engine-problem-recall that makes it worth about $ 6. grand today ... ~ $ 3 k per year - IF - I can squeeze another 3 years out of it ... ... I probably will not ever buy another Korean car. John T.
OP paid $17,191.21 canadian plus $2800 for cap and liner on May 27
1996 including tax for my Ranger - and less than $3000 in service and repairs over 307000KM before selling it to me with a bad clutch release cyl for $1500 16 years and 2 months later. That's about $23000 less $1500 = $21,500 for 16 years - a bout $1437 per year.I bought it for $1500 and spent $900 on a new clutch and installation. - total aquiaition cost $2400. I spent about $950 in repairs and service plus $2000 in tires and wheels over the first 7 years and 60000 km I owned it, then sunk another $3000-ish into it last summer putting on a new box, painting the box and cap, and adding things like heated seats, touch screen stereo, backup and side view cameras etc. So 9 years and 67000 km for $8350 if I had to throw it away tomorrow - About $925 a year - and it's still worth about 3 times what I first paid for it - - -
I spent the 3 grand on it BECAUSE I couldn't replace it for less than
5 or 6 times that.. The old girl doesn't owe me a cent !!!
The new f150 seem to be around $ 40000 for the bare bones or nearly so.
That is about 8 times the price you paid for one in 1980. How much more are you making now compaired to 1980 ? More or less than 8 times.
I wasn't impressed with the 2.4 liter 4 cyl and bought the 3,3 V6 Sorento - 2014. So far it's been GOLD. Bought it used. Judging by so far, I'd definitely buy another one - but the dealer locally??? NOPE!! Thankfully Hyundai carries most or all of the mechanical parts and the H dealer locally seams decent. So far it's been a hood release handle and now it needs a rear wiper blade.
Daughter has a 2012 Hyundai Elantra GT and it has also been GOLD. As good as younger daughter's Civic - not as old or as many miles yet - but absolutely NO ISSUES. 1.8 liter GDI with automatic.
Almost equal to a Toyota at 2/3? the price on the used market
Here's one article on the Kia/Hyundai engine issues -
On Wed, 12 May 2021 21:51:33 -0400, Clare Snyder posted for all of us to digest...
And it looks great too!
I fell in love with a shiny new burgundy 90's vintage top of the line F-150 with the big V8 that was sitting on a raised pedestal in front of a local Ford dealer's showroom.
Out on the test drive, I noticed a rough idle which the salesman assured me was common in those engines until they broke in for a few thousand miles. Overcome with lust as I was, I chose to believe the silver-tongued devil, took out my checkbook and drove it home.
6,000 miles and several different Ford dealer service departments later, it still shook sitting at a red light. By now, that feature was labeled "normal for that engine."Complaints to Ford HQ in Michigan brought some regional service experts to work on it with some small improvement.
A subsequent certified complaint letter to Hank The Deuce himself resulted in a return letter over his signature (mechanically done, no doubt) quoting from the regional service guys' reports that implied I was a picky crank who loved to complain.
I was so pissed I sold the truck.
I'd have sent him a photo of myself in my new Silverado
Hopefully Ford has learned a lesson from those terrible days <?>
A buddy had a Ford pickup from that era - with the paint peeling problem - light blue-greyish colour was ~ the only culprit - widespread and really obvious - it took YEARS and class-action suits for Ford to admit a problem and own-up. ... by that time they had lost many thousands of customers - - some for life. John T.
but don't hold the salesman responsible for vehicle problems - ~ all salesmen are lyin' scumbags. It's a given. But when the service mgr. and dealership mgmt. screw you over ... call them out ! -
- social media can be effective.. these days. John T.
Post some links .. John T.
Yup!! gotta get the "summer boots" out of storage and installed. I've always had a soft spot for Torque Thrusts.
My thoughts exactly. For the small amount of driving we do 1 MPG difference isn't even in the "noise" category.
The Ranger 4.0 isn't exactly an "economy" vehicle either
Gee thanks. John T.
My 97 Honda has cost me less than a grand a year for almost 20 years. I paid $13k, I bought a $1000 belt job and 6 tires. I probably changed the oil 5 or 6 times and bought a master cylinder for the clutch.
The TFI problems were not extremely rare - but hardly a pandemic - and those problems are 26 years in the rear view mirror. The Powerstrokes were knows as "PowerJokes" The Coyote is a performance engine and if driven hard burns about as much 0w20 oil as a primo 289 furned 10W40 or straight 30 in the seventies. Apparently the second quart doesn't burn as fast as the first if you fon't top up after the first quart which would inficate to me the specified oil level is too high -- -- Put 7 quarts in with the new dipstick and don't add untill it says add - then only add ONE quart bringing the level to half way between dull and add - see what hapens. Still burns less oil than a BMW. The 4 cyl EcoBoosts apparently DO have a problem.
Years back we never considered a Canadian Quart of oil in 1500 miles to be a problem
HomeOwnersHub website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.