It's time to replace the ancient Electrolux (I think it's a model XXX
or model 60. Probably a collectors' item, but the hose has gotten
leaky.) I've seen good advice here on a diverse range of subjects, so
I thought maybe some of you could clarify the current jumble of
over-hyped vacuum cleaners.
Top concerns would be power, reliability, and ease of cleaning. The
old Electrolux wasn't so bad, but I figure there must be vast
improvements in construction and efficiency by now.
I don't need anything on an industrial scale, but I do volunteer
animal rescue work, which does result in way more shredded stuff on
the floor than the typical civilized household. And sawdust from
building stuff for the critters. Nice to have power and capacity for
that. And nice if it's not a nightmare to clean.
I've heard mixed reviews of Dyson, so I'm not sure what the real story
is there. Miele seems to be well-regarded but expensive ($300?!). Just
heard someone talking about a low-cost brand called "Emer" but I'm not
Any info would be appreciated.
I would avoid any bagless vac or canister vac without a motorized head (the kind
where the brush is driven by airflow alone). The last vac I bought was a Kenmore
canister with a Powermate head and it does quite well. Was about $100 less than
retail at a Sears repair center. Sears has stopped the madness of using a
different bag number for every model vac they sell and now generally holds to a
single bag type for uprights and canisters.
There's a vacuum cleaner sales/repair shop near me.
I'm thinking of replacing my very old Hoover so I stopped by with the
model number and asked him what I should replace it with. He said there
are basically 3 classes of vacs:
The crap you get at Target & X-Mart for $100 - $200.
The pretty decent stuff in the $250 - $400 range.
The really good stuff at $600 plus.
I told him that I really liked the quality of the old Hoover and that
I've tried the crap from Target, etc. He said he had a few uprights
between $250 and $300 that I'd probably be happy with. He carries
Sanitaire & Eureka, but I don't have any specific model numbers.
As far as bag vs. bagless, I won't ever buy a bagless. I don't care
about the extra expense for the bags or even the possible loss of
suction as the bag fills up. I can't stand the mess a bagless unit makes
when you empty it. I've got 2 dogs and a cat, so there's lots of dust,
dander and hair that I don't want to see again once it's been sucked up.
We had a bagless min-vac for a while and we threw it out because of the
mess it made when we emptied it.
I'm sure I'll get all kinds of responses related to that issue...so be
it. We tried a bagless and will never buy another one.
Why not Google around for a sales/repair shop in your area and find out
what they recommend?
Don't count on that either. The newer ones will be lighter, but in all other
ways the older ones are likely better.
Sounds like you need more than one vacuum. A shop vac will be much better at
sawdust and stuff. An upright better at carpets. It depends on what you need.
...which brings me to the question, what types of floors?
Pretty much how I see things, except that some of the $600 stuff is just $400
class stuff with a lot of advertising (and I may be generous).
Eureka has a wide product line. Some of them are the crap you find in K-Mart.
Funny. SWMBO is exactly the opposite. We have an Orec, but I got an
outstanding deal on it and only use it upstairs (only two bedrooms and a
hall). Since she got the first bagless she won't go back to a bag. She just
empties them out in the garage (into the can). They're *great* for animal
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:19:51 -0600, " firstname.lastname@example.org"
Anything is possible, right?
Impressive that the Olde Electrolux has hung in there this long. I
think I bought it for $5 at a flea market about 25 years ago, and it
looked old then.
It ends up kind of a mixed scenario. The rescue critters are often
good at creating sawdust as well. I'd love to find something that
would cover both bases, but if not, I'll settle for the more powerful
'shop-vac' type for now.
Again, some hardwood, some rug. No wall-to-wall carpet. Think slightly
closer to industrial than ritzy residential.
Great. Well, I probably won't be fitting a $600 vc into the budget
anyway. I thought the Miele was on the pricey side at $300-400. (BTW,
does anyone know how Miele stacks up against the others? I've heard
good comments so far)
I thought it would also have some bearing on reduced suction as the
bag fills up, no? It seems to on the Electrolux, but of course that's
an old design with a cloth non-disposable bag.
I've started to do that, but most shops here have some
A beater bar is really needed for the rugs, unless you can take them out and
beat them, or some such. Other than those, an upright is useless. My wife
just uses a mop thingy (Swifter?) on the bamboo floors.
*Some* of the $600 stuff is probably worth it. The $2000 stuff? You gotta be
She thinks they work better and replacing bags is not as clean as suggested
here. Availability of the bags is another issue.
On Fri 31 Dec 2010 09:27:54a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
I have the Swiffer Wet Jet, and while I think it does a decent
cleaning job, I agree that it does leave a dull sheen on the floors.
I mostly use it for quick cleanups. When I want to do a really good
cleaning I use our Italian made cannister-style steam cleaner. It
does a remarkable job on floors, windows, mirrors, etc. It also has
a special head for cleaning oven racks, BBQ grids, etc.
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
I'm partial to my old Filter Queen, but I don't like their marketing
(similar to Kirby) and I would never pay full price for one. However, I
haven't used any other vacuum that I liked as much. As much power as a
good industrial shop vac but excellent filtration, and doesn't clog the
filter due to the cyclonic design. If you see one in a thrift store or
used vacuum shop I'd consider picking it up though.
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
I fixed a friends Dirt Devil bagless not long ago. It had sucked up a
huge piece of styrofoam. It impressed me with how well it picked up and
how well it cleaned. I gave it a workout.
I've just been reading some reviews and there are a lot of comments on
how well it does with pet hair. It's probably not in the price range or
commercial quality that you want, but I'm hunting one, and I like my
Not sure what you meant about price range. I'm not -demanding- to pay
a lot if I don't have to. The Dirt Devlis that I've seen are around
$150 or so, even for the cannister models. That would be great if that
The floor vacs (which is all I have experience with) are much less.
The prices I've seen in this thread are much higher.
That would be great if that
I can tell you that it works great. I can't tell you if it will still
work in 15 years, or two. It appears to me to be the top end of the
lower end and you are looking for the bottom end (or at least
affordable) of the top end.
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