On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:16:37 -0800, DD_BobK wrote:
Agreed that the metal plate is (much) thinner than the plywood.
But there was no room for 3/4" plywood under the flags at the top of the
vertical tracks either.
The good news is that the steel plate, now bolted with four 5/8" nuts at
the top and secured with screws at the bottom appears to be working just
This is a summary of the repair:
1. The torsion spring was upgraded from 0.243" to 0.250" wire gauge.
2. The newer longer spring was relocated to the right by a foot.
3. The spring anchor plate was securely bolted to the angle iron.
4. The angle iron could only be lag screwed at the very top & bottom!
5. A steel bearing was added to the spring anchor plate.
6. The left track flag was bolted to the overhead storage area supports.
7. The right track flag was securely bolted to a steel plate bolted by
four 5/8" steel studs at the top and wood screws at the bottom.
8. Everything but the tracks were lubricated, including hinges, rollers,
the GDO chain, and the non-galvanized torsion spring.
You never offered the thickness of the "metal plate".
From my examination your photos....there are no angle iron & no metal
plates involved in your "repair".
If its less than ~1/8" it ain't "angle iron"..... it's merely sheet
metal angle.... notice how easily it bends?
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:23:31 -0800, DD_BobK wrote:
OK. Agreed. The (thin) sheet metal was only on the right side:
The sheet metal angle was strong thick stuff that Dan Musick had sent me.
That angle iron was used to secure the left side cable drums.
Here, for example, is me asking you guys earlier how best to use it:
Here is the resulting use along with three Simpson "L" plates:
You'll notice there is absolutely no substantial wood anywhere in that
picture except(of course) the overhead storage shelf itself.
The first sheet metal angle was lag bolted horizontally to that overhead
storage shelf. Everything else was tied to that.
It's hard to see, but on the right side of the picture, the second
sheet metal angle is vertically bolted to the horizontal sheet metal angle.
The three Simpson L plates were added to shore up both the vertical sheet
metal angle (which had nothing underneath it that was substantial) and to
tie in the second (much larger) garage door (which you see to the left in
that picture above).
It's ugly. But it's what Dan Musick suggested. And, it's working.
(Of course, the old door setup was working also - but this is working better.)
I'm sorry if you don't like the solution. I'm not perfectly happy with it
myself; but it's what I came up with given what I had to work with, and,
it's better than it was before - and - perhaps most importantly - it should
last my lifetime (which is as much as I can ask for it to last).
You've done nothing but tap dance.....
HOW THICK WAS THE "PLATE"? (ie sheet metal)
HOW THICK WAS THE "ANGLE IRON" (ie sheet metal angle)
Do us all a favor & stop the name changes....
that way people can avoid joining your future threads w/o having to re-
No, that's what you hacked together by ignoring the great advice you
I had two basic choices:
- Rip it up, or,
- Cover it up.
I opted for the simplest solution - which I realize belatedly, many here
fault me for.
At least, when Dan Musick looked at the pictures, he admitted it was a
difficult situation and that my solution (which followed his advice)
will last longer than I will.
What more can we hope for than that! :)
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