Dying for a Chevy Volt, but....

It's you who doesn't get it. You keep claiming that building an electric car is trivial. All the world's auto manufacturers, who actually are doing it, don't seem to think so. For example, what part of a big honking battery suitable to power a car being, large, heavy and expensive, don't you get? Yeah, it's just a battery, but so far no one knows how to make one that stores a lot of energy and is cheap. That includes not only the auto makers, but all the battery makers out there.

Also, to try to get mileage that is barely acceptable requires more than a simple motor and battery. Regenerative braking technology being an example. If you don't recover that energy, then the car isn't going to go nearly as far. And then folks have this funny thing about thinking that a car should have A/C, heat, stereo, etc, basicly the standard feature set that you'd find in similar cars today. And for cars that cost $45K, that's a lot of stuff. No one is going to buy a stripped down, barebones car at even 25K, let alone that price. Then there are the govt mandates, like airbags, crash resistant bumpers, etc. ====================================================

Correck me if ahm wrong, but you get alladat in a Nissan Versa for what, $12K???

Seems to me swapping out an IC engine, transmission, starter, efi, etc etc etc, for a fukn electric motor and a few batteries would be more than an even trade, eh? Oh, yeah, and regenerative braking, of course. Which certain types of motors do by themselves, btw, when slowing down.

Not saying people shouldn't be paid for new designs, but ferchrissakes, nearly FOUR times the Versa price??

Funny, no one was complaining about how unsafe the 1974 beetle was.... I suspect they just drove better back then.

How bout a gummint mandate for crawling helmets for toddlers? Are you wearing yours, Trader?? LOL

Either one. And a third option: HCCI (homogeneous charge, compression ignition, like a model airplane "diesel"-that-isn't-really-a-diesel.)

It's getting really tough to follow the research on engine fuels these days. They're throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks -- including HCCI natural gas supplemented with direct-injected ethanol. No kidding. It's crazy stuff.

Just look at some of the research paper titles for natural gas:

(sort by date if you just want the latest)

So this is a Hollywood special effects piece?

Say...isnt the internal combustion engine somewhere around 28% effecient?

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

immigrants.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweat_shop

Utter nonsense. The unemployment rate in E. China is less than 1%. If workers don't want to show up for work, they don't. If they're fired, there's always another job. Companies are moving because the labor situation is so bad.

Go on... (Is that you, harry?)

The only places worse are IL and CA.

Who would want them?

Thats propane injection,..to be used in conjunction with liquid fuels, or did I read it wrong?

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Check out this page on diesel engines running on NG. ^_^

TDD

The fact that none of them are being built today should give you your answer. They just can't cut it.

Steam is just not an answer, Gunner, no matter how much you may like it.

Not the latest ones. We're headed for 40% as a typical number within a few years. Some cars surpass it now.

Average pay rate for chinese manufacturing worker 3 bucks a day american.

The workers live in dorms attached to the plant, and by groceries from company stores.....

the perfect company town:(

So fred I see you have followed me here to be your normal obnxious self.

I have your phone number and will give you a call soon:)

No one. That's why they are on a tiny island. Like Alcatraz.

About forty years. The maintenance work on steam plant and other large electricity generating plant takes many days, sometimes weeks. It takes days for steam plant to cool down before you even start.

Don't see you in Panama or the Philipines. Be out of Hawaii soon I expect.

Only part of it. So they can charge more for electricity at peak times. Lots more. So inducing people not to use electricity at that time.

Ignored in America. The sameshitferbrains/stuck in the past idiots as we have here. You had to get the nazi in in the end.

The "complications" are necessary to get even the range from them we have now. The AC motor/generator is over 90% efficient (they claim) which is some achievement,

iki/Sweat_shop

And export the jobs.........

Today's Yanks get whipped by any gook anywhere.

They now get schoolboy videogame nuts to do all their killing. I hear they are giving out medals now for killing someone by remote control on the other side of the world. Heh Heh. Does working the joystick on the video game strengthen limp wrists?

Tch. That was a 19th century British invention. Long before Doble.