I tell you what works well along side the oil soaked paper rolls. Put in
the whole used spin on oil filters. Those some beaches get hot and send a
flame out the end that doesn't quit for several minutes. They work great if
you have a supply of them.
Nope. But not many specifically say gas or electric fireplace. I
searched 9 pages under that google search and there was no mention of
any law banning wood burning fireplaces.
I googled on 'wood burning fireplace rochester ny' and there are houses
for sale featuring wood burning fireplaces. Still no reference to a ban
on wood burning fireplaces.
I suppose Joe will provide a cite.
That's the information I got from two realtors back in 1982, when I was
shopping for my first house. I said "fireplace", they said "not in the city
limits". It was confirmed by the guy who inspected and cleaned our
fireplace, who said "Two blocks west and you'd be in the city. No fireplace
use allowed". Maybe it changed.
I don't have time to check, but you can, if you like:
on 12/17/2007 12:42 PM JoeSpareBedroom said the following:
No search results on 'fireplace' in that code.
The closest match is Ch. 100: Smoke and Air Pollution Control which
mentions smoke and nuisances.
100-3 Dense smoke is hereby declared to be a nuisance, and the emission
or escape thereof from any locomotive, tug, boat, stack, chimney or flue
of any premises, building, fuel-burning equipment, roundhouse, portable
equipment or other similar contrivance or from any open fire shall be
unlawful; provided, however, that the following exceptions to the
provisions of this section shall be permitted.
100-4 A. No person shall cause, suffer or allow to be emitted into the
open air from any fuel-burning equipment or premises, or to pass a
convenient measuring point nearest to the stack outlet, dust in the
gases to exceed 0.85 pounds per 1,000 pounds of gases, adjusted to 50%
excess air for products of combustion, excepting that for fuel-burning
equipment or premises constructed subsequent to the effective date of
this chapter, a minimum dust-collecting efficiency of at least 85% shall
be required for special dust-separating equipment, and that for
fuel-burning equipment or premises constructed prior to the effective
date of this chapter, a minimum dust-collecting efficiency of at least
75% shall be required for special dust-separating equipment. The
limitations given shall be waived during periods when breakdown of
equipment occurs such as to make it evident that the emission was not
reasonably preventable. The amount of solids in the gases shall be
determined according to the Test Code for Dust-Separating Apparatus of
the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, revised and amended to
date, which is hereby made a part of this chapter by reference.
199-4 B. Acid or other fumes, noxious gases, strong odors, dust, dirt,
soot, cinders and fly ash, emitted or allowed to escape in such quantity
or volume as to be detrimental to the public or to endanger the health
and safety of the public or to cause the injury or damage to the
property or business of any person, are hereby declared a nuisance, and
the emission or escape thereof from any locomotive, tug or boat, stack,
chimney or flue of any premises, building, combustion equipment,
roundhouse, portable equipment or other similar contrivance or from any
open fire shall be unlawful.
That position and PC effect are moving East. Buy a house in NV and you
get disclaimers about what CA has declared...
SD and SF did a lights out program awhile back. Turn off the lights
for a night or something like that.
For years wood burning has been banned in Las Vegas. Homes built
earlier with a real fire place were grand fathered and still are
allowed to use wood for heat.
A week ago my furnace needed a repair. I used the gas fire place and
fake logs to warm up a little. :)
The original post referred to wood burning being bad for the *planet*.
The LA or SF or SD air basins are not the planet. They are
environmental aberrations cause by man over crowding a basin created
by too many people in one place, mountains, on-shore breezes and
You people in La La land think the world evolves around you but it
Uh, maybe it's specific to YOUR location, and how some folks operate
non-EPA-compliant woodstoves. Think: population density & inversion
So your blanket statement is kinda irrelevant here.
Dunno but he's either the same person or another who thinks there really is
such a thing. Perhaps it's a marketing scam some folks buy into?
Now safety compliant, yes. How it's vented and such. The only 'EPA'
relevance I can think of, have to do with what you burn, not what you burn
it in. Dont use treated wood for example due to the chemicals which can be
carginogenic when burning.
Yep. A lot of construction, air flow, low pollution, etc regulations
have to met to even sell a stove now-a-days. I don't think you can
even produce a non-compliant stove for the market any more.
The 'compliant' sstoves are far more efficient and produce way less
pollutants than the old "Iron box with a hole" types.
Of course the 'efficiency' and 'pollutant' bits rely on them being
EPA compliant woodstoves have a secondary combustion system that
re-burns the combustion gases prior to their release. This is
accomplished with either a catalyst or what are called secondary burn
tubes located immediately below the top baffle (non-catalytic). The
efficiency of these stoves is nearly twice that of a conventional
airtight design (i.e., 75 to 80 per cent) and the amount of
particulate produced is extremely low -- typically in the order of 3
grams per hour.
For a simplified overview, see:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:25:09 -0600, "S. Barker"
I guess that presupposes anyone would be dumb enough to burn anything
green in a woodstove regardless of its kind. Be that as it may, a
non-catalytic would be the better performer; well, at least up to the
point the chimney catches on fire. ;-)
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:44:24 -0600, "S. Barker"
In relation to EPA certified woodstoves and the broader question of
the environmental impacts of burning wood, this story appeared in the
December 16th edition of the Toronto Star.
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