On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM UTC-5, Molly Brown wrote:
I had a bosch for a few years, nightmare/ when the warranty ran out i took it to te recycle scrap place
mine had a buried module that controlled all water levels.
cost a fortune, got clogged repeatedly. couldnt be disassembled and several hours ofhard work to replace.....
it failed twice, both requiring 2 techs to work on it together.
a real pos.......
On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:55:39 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
by was mine quite, so quiet i couldnt hear it running.
the downside of this? to do any work on it it had to come completely appart, out of its cabinet.
the solenoid valve was the only part that could be replaced, without total disassembly.
a friend has a appliance repair business, he wouldnt work on them.
best move i ever made was trashing it. the scrap yard got nearly all plastic. almost no metal in the entire unit
Ours is going on 10 years old now without a single problem. It's the
quietest DW I have ever heard. People standing next to it don't even
know it is running until water drains into the garbage disposal.
From what I've heard they are the quietest out there and very
seldom need repair. When they do, the repairs may be nasty - I don't
I'd sooner buy something that doesn't need repairs than something that
was easy to repair and needed a lot.
When I was looking to buy my wife's car my brother said "buy a taurus"
Then he said "but not the 4 cammer".
I asked him why and he said"they are a B%&#Ch to fix" I asked him
which he sees more of for repairs, and he said "the vulcan"
I bought the 4 cammer.
On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 2:02:26 PM UTC-5, email@example.com wrote:
I've got an 05 Taurus with the Vulcan. The only engine problem I've ever had
was a fried intake manifold which was caused by a excessive back pressure
from a clogged cat. Not really an Vulcan engine problem at all.
Oh yeah, and then there was the time the car started to accelerate on it's
own. Not "Holy crap! Hang on!" acceleration, just a slow gradual acceleration
without having a foot on the gas pedal.
It turned out to be a disconnected cruise control cable as shown here:
Once again, not a Vulcan engine problem per se, but a fairly common problem
with the Taurus from what I understand.
I wonder 2 things about your brother's comment:
1 - How many more Vulcans vs the DOHC vehicles are out there?
2 - What kind of repairs was he doing - actual Vulcan engine repairs,
or things like mine which were not really engine problems, but happened
to Vulcan-installed vehicles. (Still problems, yes, no argument there.)
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:48:13 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
Actual vulcan repairs. Timing cover oil leaks. Coolant leaks at the
timing cover, head gasket problems, camshaft sensors, and a batch of
bad cyl heads that had valve recession problems requiring head
replacement. They also had some oil pan gasket problems.
Definitely not a BAD engine, but not as smooth as the cammer - and the
cammer seams to have fewer problems.
Yes there are more Vulcans out there than Duratec 30s - but he did say
there were fewer problems on the Duratec, but when yhey have problems
they are no fun to fix.
I had a Duratec25 cammer in our last car - a Mercury Mystique, and it
was a great engine. Jammed in under that hood REAL tight, but of the
problems I had with that car, other than a vacuum leak none were
On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 9:48:27 PM UTC-5, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
It's kind of funny about our Taurus.
When it was SWMBO's daily driver, we always took *my* vehicles on long
road trips, like to visit the girls at college or holiday visits to the
parents. Even when SWMBO went on a trip alone, she either took my vehicle
or we rented something for her. My vehicles were always newer and
perceived to be more reliable than the Taurus and one major repair,
especially away from home, would have been more expensive than a rental.
Then we bought a used car for one of my daughters because she needed it
to get to her job when she was home from college one summer, with the
expectation that she would take it back to school with her. Well, that
car turned out to be a real POS so we gave her the Taurus to take back
to school and bought a newer car for SWMBO.
Well, it's been almost 2 years now and the Taurus has made multiple 1000
mile round trips to and from college and currently gets driven about 250
miles a week because of my daughter's college internship. It's got about
150K on it now and still going strong.
So much for avoiding "road trips". ;-) I like to think that we saved it
for her by not taking on any road trips with it in the early years of her
college experience, even though that was never the plan.
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