American toilet design?

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I dread to think what happens if a US toilet is blocked. In the UK, you end up filling the bowl, then you stop and fix the problem. If your bowl is normally full anyway, flushing would spill it onto the floor.

It's not full. It's got a couple of inches of water in it. Maybe you should learn how to use Google.

Cindy Hamilton

That's more modern than my toilet, mine still has some ridiculous siphon system in the tank - which means if you don't pull the handle hard enough, it can actually "stall" mid flush. You'd think a dump valve (or flapper as they call it in the video) was a pretty simple piece of kit.

I saw a photo on Quora a Brit had taken in a USA hotel. The bowl was 3/4s full, and he was told this was normal. UK bowls are about 10% full, the water stops before the point it becomes wider.

Syphonic toilets are available in the US, or were when I lived there.

And of course they refill with water, and they don't splash that badly. The ones that have the ledge stink, of course.

There's a lot of variation in toilet design in the U.S. The toilet at my workplace has very little water in it, and it's easy to fail to flush. My toilet at home has a little more water in it and it rarely fails. I believe both toilets consume the same amount of water per flush (federal regulations).

Older toilets might retain four of litres of water. It's all about the trapway shape relative to the bowl position.

The height of the water in the bowl matches the height of the water in the trapway.

Cindy Hamilton

You actually have regulations on how much water a toilet uses? Oh my god! That sounds like something that would happen in Germany! OCD to the extreme! I thought the EU was bad: "Lord's Prayer - 66 words, 10 Commandments - 179 words, Gettysburg address - 286 words, EU regulations on the sale of cabbage - 26,911 words."

So it's a "personal" preference on odour prevention, splashing, possible overflowing, etc?

I prefer the ones with less water - I know that the whole cistern full of water can fit into the bowl. So it can't overflow unless I'm stupid enough to flush again after seeing it's blocked.

How does the syphonic system work?

Maybe the Germans all have a scat fantasy?

Environmental. Because there are places where water is scarce, the entire country must use the same amount during a flush.

Most people don't think about toilets that way. The majority of people buy based on how it will look in their bathroom. Or on how inexpensive the fixture is.

The whole cistern full of water can fit in our toilets, too. Probably twice over for those who are dumb enough to flush again when it is blocked. Even idiots don't like to clean up a mess on the floor, and toilet manufacturers know this.

Cindy Hamilton

Do you mean the trap, that is part of the toilet? I think even european toilets have that.

I haven't got the strength to read the whole thread, to see if someone already said this, but ....

My brother bought a fancy house, or his wife had it somewhat remodeled before they moved in, and it had fancy toilets with only a small amount of water in them, a pond instead of a lake.

And every time I used one, after I flushed, it was still dirty. Happens one time 10,000 with an American style toilet. Two out of 3 times with these.

I have Eljer toilets which afaik are not expensive, and they don't have this problem.

Someone told me that European toilets use water speed to flush, and American ones use water volumne.

If I had had an designer or anyone I paid who advised me to put in such a toilet, I would have screamed bloody murder afterwards and wanted him to change them at his cost.

It's just wrong!!! EUGH! It's an automatic reaction to be repulsed by s*it, whether it's yours or someone else's. Could you eat your own s*it? Would you do it for $1 million?

Redbacks are tiny, you could miss one.

The Quora guy said it did.

That's crazy. If area A has a water shortage, then they should save water, not everyone else. It's not like the whole of the USA has a network of water pipes to share it!

Why not.... just meter the water! If everyone pays for what they use, people will try to use less.

I've never bought one. I just use the one that was there when I moved in. I'd only change it if I had a ridiculous one with a high water level that splashed my ass. Or that my pet could drown in if I left the lid up.

The photo I saw on Quora showed the bowl pretty damn full, looked like only half a cistern would have got in.

Who?

What?

The toilets I saw and used in England, France,Spain, Portugal (islands only) Italy, greece, and Turkey, as well as in Mexico, Zambia, Botswana, and Burkina Faso (where they had them) all worked the same way.(except where they used composting toilets or vacuum toilets like they use on air-liners and cruise-ships)

The newest one gallon flush units work as wellas the old 3 gallon units. Some of the 1.2 or 1.6 gallon units "stunk"