Phew! A lot of people are defending clover. But in the present
situation it's a plant growing where is is not wanted. And the present
question is how to be rid of it. Instead of defending clover, advise
McElrath how to remove it without resorting to WMD.
I have two daylilies growing where I don't want them. I don't like the
color of these two. I don't like the fact that they bloom only 2-3
times a year instead of almost constantly like some of my other
daylilies. And I don't like the fact that they are crowded some other
plants that I want to grow in my garden. When I remove AND TRASH these
daylilies, I certainly don't want a herd of daylily defenders trying to
And when McElrath gets rid of his unwanted clover, don't lynch him either.
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Clover is the least of my lawn problems.
I used Weed Be Gone this year with pretty good results on all the other
weeds, but it didn't appear to do anything to the clover. So I'd say
Google it. This looks promising:
On Thu, 27 May 2010 21:16:29 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Murderers, murderers! <g>
I didn't actually follow the link - to each his own. My wish is that
someday clover is a friend to you all, not to be eradicated, but who
knows if my wish is a good one?
Bees love white clover - I guess not good if you've got kids. I was
afraid of bees when I was a kid. Now I'm growing old and depend on red
clover to keep night sweats and hot flashes at bay. Works really well
If it's a bee problem, as soon as you mow the blossoms, no more bees
visiting the clover.
On 5/27/10 6:48 PM, email@example.com wrote:
I get only yellow clover. It has burrs that are difficult to remove
from my clothing, especially my socks.
Fortunately, my animal has no fur to hold the burrs. See
<http://www.rossde.com/Cleo.html . Owners of furry pets often curse
clover because of the burrs. (And don't start a harangue about the
morality of owning animals.)
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
I gave up on the perfect lawn years ago. The cost, the toxins, the labor.
Fighting nature is a lost cause. Nature will always win in the end. Work
with nature don't fight it. Repeat this over and over, it will save you
"I love clover, clover is beautiful, clover is good". You will feel much
better. If you follow your current path of weed and feed, it will lead
only to despair and misery year after year.
Daylilies!!!! May God have mercy on your soul :)
The easy way to get rid of clover is an 18 inch mouldboard plow. roll
the clover under and then lightly disk the surface before planting. The
clover will become humus and help with long-term plant growth.
The hard way is anything less than this. Chemicals work, but can do
damage to other plants in the area. Clover seed is fertile for up to 7
years after it drops on the ground. Most weed killers will not kill the
seed. Roots can go as deep as a foot, depending on the kind of clover,
so a simple roto-tiller will not get rid of the roots of some species.
removing it to 3 or 4 inches and replacing the area with tightly grown
sod can work to stop most clover species. Covering the area with a black
tarp for a period of several months if it is in the sun can help kill
both the clover and the seed, but is not fool proof. The tarp should be
water proof and not allow sunlight through. Remember to cover all the
clover (or grass) and an area at least a foot larger in each direction
if possible. This is best done in the summer. It should kill about
everything under it.
Like grass, clover is a ground cover that has evolved to survive grazing
animals, fires, floods, and various other natural disasters, that having
been said, it is darn hard to get rid of. Best of luck.
I'm sorry, but where you find one error, one can expect to find others.
Clear vs. Colored Plastic
Transparent or clear plastic is most effective
for solarization. Black plastic, often used for
mulching, does not heat the soil as well as
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
If solarization was the only issue, then clear would be great. but you
are also trying to stop germination and growth. In 40+ years of organic
growing, I have found black plastic gets rid of stuff better than clear
or colored. For heating the soil in the spring I use clear and use clear
for quick germination of seeds in the spring as well up north here. But
if I want to clear an area, black is my choice.
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