This will be my first drill press and a life long purchase I think so here
is the question.
A 12" depth bench top unit goes for $180 at my local Home Depot but is my
just delivered Rockler advert a Jet floor mount 15" is on sale for $100
more. In the next 20 years would I be better off getting the 15" full size
unit. Not ever having used one I'm just not if it is over kill. Oh, BTW this
is just a hobby for stress relief. Thanks for any advise. One more thing is
it necessary to have a mortising accessory or can I just use a drill/chisel
I bought a benchtop about 20 years ago, after figuring out that it wasn't
enough I had to go back and buy a floor model later. If it's for the long
haul, buy the best you can afford, if you can afford the Jet and it won't
take food from your children's mouth or throw your wife into a rage then
that would be the way to go.
Just my opinion, its worth every bit of what you paid for it.
"Keith Boeheim" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
Delta/Jet seem to be all the same other than color...dunno about the Griz
but that may come from the same far-east factories as well.
I had a 16" floor Delta and loved it. I now have the 17" floor Delta and
hate it. Dial depth guage vs. treaded rod is my biggest loss (former was
accurate, latter is a piece of crap that is impossible to set accurately and
even then will slip past the threads on the slightest bit of pressure).
Floor vs. benchtop...the floor models usually come with 5/8' chuck, bench
tops at 1/2". Believe it or not there are times where the 5/8" is needed.
Speed settings between the two (probably 15 vs. 5) don't seem to matter
since you can compromise on either and get the job done. Floor models can be
used for alot of other stuff, i.e. when remodeling a bathroom I used it to
stir the tile mortar in a 5 gallon bucket since my heavy duty drill couldn't
handle the load.
Tom reported....I now have the 17" floor Delta and
Yup, same problem with my 17" Delta. I've learned to deal with it,
and not crank so hard once you are approaching the final depth.
Couple observations, though, which I made while shopping and comparing
this machine to the 16 1/2" Jet a couple few years back. First, most
reviewers prefer the threaded rod to the dial, since the dials on
Chinese drill presses are not that accurate. I'm guessing your older
DP was made elsewhere. Second, at least one reviewer, if not two,
observed that the Jet had problems with spindle deflection, which the
delta didn't have.
One of the Jet's bigger selling points (at least at the time) was the
aforementioned mortising attachment. Most experts don't suggest using
this except for occasional use. Too much stress on your machine.
Better off buying a $200 dedicated benchtop mortiser.
Older Delta was bought about 15 years ago so you're probably right. That
"dial thing" worked great. With the newer piece of crap I guess I'll try to
replace the threaded rod assembly even though I'm sure Delta will want the
typical "arm and leg" for it. Replacement parts for Delta do seem to be
better than what comes with the tool so maybe it will be better in the long
run and I can quit cussing every time I try to drill a hole without going
all the way through.
As for the various brands, I think they all have "deflection" problems but
guess for the cheap prices (how can they all sell such a massive piece of
machinery for under $300???) we can expect that. We are only working with
wood which doesn't demand microscopic accuracy anyway. As to why any of the
big names would continue to "sell" based on the mortising attachment is
beyond me...PITA to set up, never very accurate, and about the time you get
it right you need the DP for something else and have to take it all apart.
Since I do only need a mortiser occasionally BUT was faced with a one
time project that required a lot of mortises I just went ahead and
purchased a smaller Delta Bench top Drill press and a Mortising
attachment for it.... Rather then a dedicated Mortiser...
THIS WAS YEARS AGO..... and I can honesly say that having a second
drill press in the shop all these years I made the correct
decision.... I get much more use out of it then I would a dedicated
machine...and for slightly less money to boot....
HOWEVER the drill press mounted Mortising attachment does work . l t
is much slower, takes twice as long to cut a mortise, not nearkly as
the Grizzly would be my choice, but the next DP I get will have a speed
control without changing belt position. I bought a cheap router speed
control and put that on my DP, wonder if that will hurt it? LOL
"codepath" < email@example.com> wrote in message
...changing the belts around is not a big deal...takes only a few
seconds...I keep the speed chart taped to the wall next to the press. The
instructions for the pulley alignment are under the top cover. I think
letting the pulleys do the work will probably beat any type of electronic
speed control, especially if it ever comes under load.
I disagree. I have the floor model Delta, I find it cumbersome to
change speeds. I wish I had bought the model with the variable width
pulleys. I think I will convert my DP to a 5 speed model, flip the
motor pulley, take out the middle pulley, and get a longer link belt.
Electronic speed control would be a very high end item. Not sure
anyone is doing a drill press that way.
A rheostat on an AC motor would not work.
Guess I got lucky with both of the Deltas I've owned in terms of speed
change. It really only takes me seconds. Consult the chart they give you
for type of material, type of bit and size, note the speed. Then open the
lid, "consult" the pulley arrangement chart pasted inside for that speed or
the nearest to it, loosen the locking thumb screws, turn the handle to
release pressure on the belts, arrange the belts on the pulleys as the lid
arrangement tells you to, tighten up the handle and then the thumb screws.
What's so hard about that?
New belts can make this a little tougher but that is temporary. They
stretch with use.
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 17:11:27 -0800, codepath wrote:
I recently got the second one's little brother:
G7945 5 Speed 1/2HP, 34" Bench-Top Radial Drill Press, $150
My thought is to put a mobile cabinet under it to increase storage in my
small shop. If I need to use it for bigger jobs, I can just swing the head
around and have the full capacity to the floor. That's the plan anyway,
we'll see how it works out in practice.
I was very close to buying the Grizzly radial floor model, but it
doesn't take a mortise attachment. I don't want to buy a separate
mortising machine, so I would like to get a DP that will accept a
Other than that, I have heard that after taking advantage of the
radial feature, you need to be very careful to get the machine back in
alignment. (it sounds like it doesn't have a positive stop at the 90
degree mark... not positive about that though)
firstname.lastname@example.org (Robert Bonomi) wrote in message
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:33:02 +0000, email@example.com
(Robert Bonomi) brought forth from the murky depths:
The two reasons I've heard are:
1) they flex a bit more than solid-head machines
2) they're harder to get/keep aligned vertically
But if a person is machine savvy (and a tad smarter than
a pointy stick) they should be able to work around these
minor problems with ease.
Do the voices in my head bother you?
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