Shhhhhhh ... the congresscritters have insured that fuel and food are not indexed in inflation.
That has to be one of the more egregious actions pulled on the sheeple, but they don't seem to give it a thought.
Leon wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:
That may be part of the equation, Leon, but there are plenty of people in Europe who commute an hour or more each way, just like here in the NYC area, and I'm sure around Houston as well. Yesterday I paid $3.65/gal at cheap Eddie's, and it really should be under $3/gal. Let's see - China and India are sucking oil. Iran has financial problems. Nigeria has problems. Brazil has problems. Venezuela has Hugo C. Best thing is to get to use less oil. Supply and demand will take care of the rest.
Swingman wrote in news:RvidncYPGfPtHxjSnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:
Where inthe job description of the sheeple does it say anything about thinking? As the janitor told me, common sense is a misnomer, it isn't common at all.
And since when does common sense make a person anywhere near smart??? LOL
Common sense is common, it is just that if you don't at least have common sense you are an idiot.
Correct! and a rule of thumb today is that a typical automobile can be powered on 1/4 the energy using electricity as when using gasoline.
But we don't create energy as individuals and we have to buy it from somewhere. Every one uses energy and has to have it. Even those that are supposedly "off the grid" depend on the outside world to provide what they don't produce.
The big problem with alternative energy is that individuals will never be able to produce what they use and will always have to buy energy from some one. Energy is what makes the world work and we as a society will always pay a high price for it over the long term.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:57:47 -0500, Leon
Sure it's their fault. They could supply the better quality stuff if they wanted to. But, before a dozen people reply, I'll admit that the demand for cheaper products is driven by the consumer.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:06:32 -0500, Leon
Granted. I watched a home buying show yesterday. They were looking for a home in Texas and the number one factor in their search was the commute time from the suburb to the city. It came down to being close to friends and a two hour commute to the city or living close to the city and being too far from friends. They ended up buying a home midway between the two destinations.
All that space you Texicans have down there comes with a price.
Yep ... and the biggest price they have to pay is that most everyone over 30 is from somewhere else (including me). ;)
Texas is especially beautiful at the moment. In a word, bluebonnets:
Here are a few thing I recall...
1940s Shakes, malts, ice cream sodas : $0.15 Banana split: $0.35 Hot dog: $0.10 with chili: $0.12 Comic books: $0.10 Ice cream cone: $0.05 one scoop, $0.10 two scoops Most candy bars: $0.05. Ditto soft drinks 4 BR/1 bath house w/finished attic: $5500 Smaller home: $3500 Post WW2 new tract home: LA: $13 Rent, 1 BR unfuurnished apartment: $85/month State university tuition: $15/credit hour Local cafe type restaurant meal: $0.55 - $1.00 3# box of American cheese, *NOT* sliced & wrapped: $3.00 1956 New Ford Victoria (not Crown): $2000 +- 1958 One way air, SF > Honolulu: > $175 Rent, 1 BR furnished Honolulu apartment: $135+ Couch, 2 chairs, 3 tables, 3 lamps, dining table w/6 chairs, room divider/planter, 200+ sq.ft abaca rug, 8x10 seagrass rug; all from mid-upper store, all rattan: $1500 1959-late 60s (all Honolulu, more expensive than mainland) 3 BR tract house, leased land: $19000-25000 Ice cream: $0.69/half gallon New 1965 Datsun (Nissan) station wagon: $2500 New 1966 Triumph Spitfire: $2500 Rent, 1500 sq.ft commercial space: $250/month Salary, "girl friday": $220-250/month Air dried koa: $0.50 brd.ft Walnut: $1.25 brd.ft Teak: $1.35 brd.ft Dinner for two at upscale French restaurant including drinks & tip: $25 Local cafe type restaurant meal: $0.95-1.50 (included soup or appetizer, salad, bread & butter, entree, starch, vegetable, beverage & dessert).On 4/11/2012 7:57 AM, Han wrote: ...
But using NG for central generation is simply "just stupid" use of the resource that is far more important for things like heating, petrochemicals, etc., etc., etc., ... It is a _VERY_ shortsighted fix to what isn't clearly a problem.
I also don't think there's that much overall efficiency gained in the EV--even best central-station generation is only approx 40% thermal efficiency so even if the transmission and utilization were 100% that's not "much more" efficient than burning the fuel directly. Some, perhaps, but "much"? -- I don't think so--that juice has to come from somewhere, and unless you're willing to take it as can find it, it has to be backed up by baseload generation from some source. As long as you talk only on peripheral marginal replacement rather than a major source one can get by but when it becomes a dominant factor the rules on availability change drastically.
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Here's a link to a site with a *ton* of historic price info...
I found an exceedingly good value in my $26k Toyota Tundra.
Oh, absolutely, the alt fuels will be more expensive. The have gov't built into them via subsidies. Subsidies which should not be there. That's how corn-produced ethanol got its stranglehold on us. Sheeit!
And watch the oil companies rush to fracking the entire mainland US, ruining all groundwater in the process, to meet the new demands on electricity. I believe that over half of Americans could put good use to an electric car.
It'll happen in space before it does here, I reckon. 'Course, I'm still waiting for The Cull to happen. Once the sheeple stampede, gov't will start taking a back seat. We're in for scary times ahead. The question will be: From whom? Gov't or the people?
-- Let no man imagine that he has no influence. Whoever he may be, and wherever he may be placed, the man who thinks becomes a light and a power. -- Henry George
I have a neighbor 2 streets over that has an oil well in their back yard. ;~)
I am in a new neighborhood and I was laughing and giving the builder salesman a hard time about that oil well. They had just brought in a rig to do maintenance work on the well and it was a sight to behold.
And that is about what I paid but I was talking sticker price then and now. My middle of the road model snickered for $34k and I am pretty sure yours snickered for considerably more also.
Even if the government was not involved, LOL, the price would would still be high. Energy is a unique product and is priced accordingly, the demand is high and always will be and therefore will be considered expensive because great numbers one will always be willing to pay the price.
In other words, you were getting shit in the 70's, and you're getting shit today.
Clearly, there will be geographical differences in what is available.
In the west, in the 70's, even regular studs were old-growth douglas fir, tight straight grain. In the 70's, old-growth redwood was common and beautiful. Good luck finding either today.
scott
My store used to have a cull cart and I never went into the store w/o going over it. Some days it was jammed with good stuff. They no longer have it, at least for the past few months. I hate going to any store, I hate shopping, barely tolerate going to tool/hardware stores. I know I went to HD more than I do now just because I enjoyed the cull cart. I've made some nice deck furniture, chairs and benches, and even a pool (spectator) chair out of that stuff. The spectator chair I made as a prototype, planning to make it out of oak if it turned out well. It turned out so well I didn't bother to make another one in oak.
So far, you are the ONLY one stating HD wood is not as wide as it used to be, or that cheap wood was knot free and straight grained in the
70's. You are wrong on both counts, and it doesn't matter if no one or everyone agrees with you.I don't know, you clearly are an idiot, and if I wasn't in "desperate need for attention", I guess I would simply let you prattle on unchallenged.
Dunno. How wide are the boards now at your HD? Perhaps your tape measure is out of whack?
For your information, Obama doesn't:
1) owe anybody anything 2) have responsibility for the deficts that were inflicted on the country by: a) the republican tax reductions without corresponding reductions in spending[**] b) the trillions spent on two unnecessary wars by a republican administration (and unprecedented tax cuts during war!) c) congress passes budgets, not the president, so it is the idiot republicans who are completely and directly responsible for the current deficits (note that if we'd continued with the tax rates in effect in 2000, and had no unnecessary and illegal wars[*], we'd have zero deficit and no debt today.)scott
[*] bin laden could have been taken out sans war, as was indeed the case. [**] trickle down theory was dead with the reagan administration, who was smart enough to raise taxes 7 of his 8 years.
We went on one of the boat tours and saw those islands. Looked great but our camping days are long past us. At one time camping was a large part of our free time and we commented how great it would have been to take our boat and camp on one of those islands.
Actually he owes us the responsibility of being the president.
Actually you can blame "ALL" past administrations, Republican and Democrat. And if you want to be technical it was during Jimmy Carters administration that the United States first learned what being in debt over one trillion dollars was all about.
And that is a matter of opinion and don't for get Viet Nam, screw the money spent there, look at the numbers of lost lives during that war. Thank you LBJ.
What are you smoking???
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