How an American is less desireable

The system is rigged against an American.
I was speaking with the recruiter , he told me that generally H1's are preferred because when they bring on an H1 it only costs them 4%, when they have a W2 American it's 16%.
How's that for why I am not really wanted. They are offered more money because there is more room to give them higher rates. So the company hiring them keeps more, and the worker gets more.
How did our system get this messed up.
How F'd up.
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On 5/7/2014 1:55 PM, woodchucker wrote:

I had always been told that H1's pay SS, but maybe the company does not pay the 7.05 or whatever it is these days.
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I wonder if that is regional? Out here in the silly valley, there are no shortage of jobs for workers with the appropriate skillsets[*], american or otherwise. Much of my team is over 40, too, with several recent hires over 50. In my prior company (which I co-founded), we hired anyone that would pass our technical screening procedure (a days worth of interviews) which was quite rigorous. So long as the prospective employee was employment-eligable (citizen or work-visa) and passed the tech screen, they were offered the position. We had a good mix of green-card holders and citizens (many first-gen) and a couple of H1's. We also inherited a team in India and a small team in Beijing when we purchased another company.
The CPOE (current place of employment) is a processor design company.
[*] That's the key, the skillset. For example, we need RTL designers, Verification engineers, Processor architects, but not JAVA programmers.
On the other hand, a good friend who has been in the industry since the mid 70's is having a hard time; he's a lab manager/rework specialist and there aren't many large computer rooms left and everyone just throws broken hardware away instead of fixing it.
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On 5/7/2014 2:43 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

I doubt this is regional as the company that this person works for (I can't mention the name) is a national company. And certainly if I can get in, it would be skill set. But it's just getting to the first level.
I had a caller the other day ask me if I were a citizen, I said yes, they said they would call me back in a few minutes. Right after asking. They never called back.. basically they hung up on me.
Your company may be outside the norm. But take a look around.
I have worked at companies where I was the only American in very large groups. I used to think they were making less, but that's not the case anymore. I spoke to a recruiter the other day who told me I was very reasonable in my expectations, the average Indian is asking for more.
Remember I am relating to my specialized field in the IT field. Which has been pretty much taken over.
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"woodchucker" wrote:

<snip> --------------------------------------------------- Wake up and smell the posies.
At your age, your only shot you have is being hired as a contract day laborer.
Otherwise, you become a self employed consultant and hope you get picked up by one of your former employers.
In either case, no "bennies" and you pick up the full boat on S/S.
Lew
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On 5/7/2014 2:47 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:

Lew that's all I am trying for right now. I have given up on perm.. For me they just don't exist. I can't find the perms.
I have had no bennies for years. They stopped offering them years ago, around 2004-2005.
I probably should have gone back into programming, where there are some opportunities. But I have been out of programming since 96 maybe. While I do programming to support my job, it is not business programming, rather to support getting my job done, and getting it done more efficiently.
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