Will No-Nails hold electrical boxes?

[Stuart Noble]

I don't see anything here that requires expensive kit. Repeat cutting is hardly City and Guilds is it? Pretty weird looking polygon though

[manatbandq]

To measure the Hyperbollocs drive in his Prius.

MBQ

[geoff]

I've used the Pinkgrip from Screwfix quite a few times with great success..... makes it really easy to get the box in square if the hole is a bit uneven at the back. I found it best to really rub the Pinkgrip into the back of the hole with a finger or whatever to make sure it's well adhered.

Geoff

[John Rumm]

Order a real one with fully screened conductors from CPC for about a fiver.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Not all SCART leads are fully wired. Some don't use co-ax for the video so can produce a slight mismatch.

Unfortunately selling price is no guarantee of its spec.

[Stuart Noble]

If the £1 version didn't work perfectly, or I felt that I might notice the difference, I might just do that.

[Stuart Noble]

If the £1 version didn't work perfectly, or I felt that I might notice the difference, I might just do that.

[Andy Wade]

And crosstalk. Crosstalk is more of an issue than mismatch in unscreened and single-overall-screened-only SCART leads.

Background reading:

[Stuart Noble]

Never had any problems with the £1 version. I imagine it costs no more to produce a good one than a bad one in that sort of volume

[Andy Hall]

It means that this is how volume resellers measure their business.

Buy component video leads.

[Andy Hall]

There is nothing that *requires* it. The question is how long is one willing to spend on producing something that has to be very accurately machined with straight lines and precise angles ten times over,

I can do that by hand, but it really isn't very interesting. I can machine all of it in a few minutes including the setups and tests and then spend time with the hand tools on more rewarding projects.

No it isn't. However, try it on a cheap SCMS and the repeatability is not there. Each cut has to be checked and there is a lot of waster material unless one is willing to accept poor geometrical fit.

Actually a perfectly reasonable one. basically a rectangle with a corner cut off but not at 45 degrees,.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Bit of a backward step having separate leads. I like SCARTs - if only they used higher quality plugs and sockets. Like the similar Jones plugs.

[Andy Hall]

It is, but then at least one can have some degree of control of the quality. Generally, as well, if proper component video (and I mean separate syncs, not sync on green) is implemented in the equipment, it is done for professional or prosumer (I hate that word, but it is descriptive) use and the electronics to do it are better implemented. At least, that's what I've found.

I think that the SCART connectors are just generally mechanically poor, before one even looks at the contacts

[Stuart Noble]

Generally, as well, if proper component video (and I mean

Good enough for most people (even Dave) but of course falling woefully short of the Hall benchmark? I think you might be kidding yourself again.

[Stuart Noble]

I thought you said it had 4 sides

[dennis]

SCART works quite well as long as you aren't stupid enough to buy gold plated connectors.. tin lead and gold don't mix. Cheap tin lead plugs work well with the cheap tin lead sockets. You need a cable tie on the lead near the socket though.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I find them all too easily pulled out by even slight movement of either themselves or the equipment. The worse being the round fully screened type of lead which is pretty inflexible. Ribbon types are somewhat better. It would make sense if they latched in place - the cost surely wouldn't be excessive.

[Stuart Noble]

The latest £1 version is a snap fit of sorts. Just two indents on the metal, but effective enough. Yes, if her indoors decides to hoover behind the tele, there's usually some lead disruption but from that point of view I'm glad they pull out easily.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Gold plated connectors will mate perfectly well with any other. Whether the 'gold plated' SCARTs are actually gold plated is a different matter...

[manatbandq]

The issue isn't mechanical mating, but the contact between dissimilar metals. I remember receiving a telling off from the head of QA for specifying an IC socket with tinned contacts for a device with gold plated pins. It's more of a problem for high-rel equipment than consumer stuff. For the latter, a quick unplug/plug-in will give a nice fresh contact.

MBQ