just starting to fix some telephone (and ADSL) cable into a cavity behind a
The litttle cable grips may be fine on wood but they are not much use on
brick with mortar joints.
Any reason not to use 'no more nails' or similar?
The main concern is that it may leach chemicals out of the sheathing, making
the cable brittle.
Any other suggestions for a 'dab and fix' material for this?
2.5mm sq clips work fine - big clips, big nails.
the tiny ones for telephone cable also have dinky litle nails
these don't really hack it as masonary nails
Yes, I do - the skirting boards are removable so there is a big risk of
trapping cables when putting the skirtings on and off.
The cable also goes round two sides of a room so there is the natural
tendency to migrate into the centre of the room.
My bricks, which disintegrate when attempting to hammer in a clip can be
done by drilling a 10mm deep hole with a 2-3mm masonry bit, provided it
isn't near the edge of the brick. The mortar is crumbly as hell. Not a hope
of using it.
Drilling a pilot hole for part of the nail length allows the nail to grip in
the last bit without bending and without shattering the brick.
So now I am sorted for my 2.5mm flat and 5mm round clips.
No change in the little clips though :-(
Something I have found very handy on odd occasions in the past is a box
of "pin plugs" - not sure where I got them from, but I bought a box
years ago. The ones I have are made by Tower.
They are like small white hard plastic wall plugs with a smaller hole
than you would have for a screw type wall plug. You drill a 5mm hole and
insert said plug and then nail into it. They work very well for cable
clips into surfaces that are either too crumbly or too hard to nail into
A bit of a google came up with
Its in the middle of a pdf, so I haven't hd time (or ICBA) to dig around
for the prices just now.
But as I've never ever succeeded with a masonry nail of any size or type,
must be worth a look
May I suggest an alternative method of fixing ?
Use screw down cable tie bases. ( OK, I admit it will take longer than just
banging in some nail type cable grips, but does have it's benefits...)
Fix the bases into the wall with screws and wall plugs.
Then use cable ties to attach the cables into position on the bases.
With this method you can easily release the cables if you need to and can
just pop another cable-tie on to re-secure it.
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:19:18 -0000, "David W.E. Roberts"
Just as an aside, I got my first introduction to "No more nails" last
Got asked to fix a washing line. When I went along I was shown how one
end of the washing line had come away from the garage wall. The
bracket had been fixed to the wall with....you can guess the rest. :)
I've used GripFil to hold stuff that you wouldn't believe, and I have yet to
have any bond break - excellent stuff but a git to get off your hands. I
thought 'No More Nails' was just for lighter DIY jobs, since iirc it is not
No More Nails is plenty strong enough to hold up a washing line, but
it doesn't survive repeated moisture.
As to the cables, then I have been known to do this for low voltage
cable and "garage grade" work, but generally I'd attach a length of
either galvanised cable tray, or a wooden batten, then tiewrap or clip
the cables to that.
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