Does 'no more nails' = 'no more cable grips'?

Thay've always worked OK for me, the nails are supposed to be masonry nails.

Do you need to fix them at all?

My bricks, which disintegrate when attempting to hammer in a clip can be done by drilling a 10mm deep hole with a 2-3mm masonry bit, provided it isn't near the edge of the brick. The mortar is crumbly as hell. Not a hope of using it.

Christian.

Yes, I do - the skirting boards are removable so there is a big risk of trapping cables when putting the skirtings on and off. The cable also goes round two sides of a room so there is the natural tendency to migrate into the centre of the room.

Cheers Dave R

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Not enough sticktion I would think. In your place I would use a hot melt glue gun - judiciously ;-)

Just as an aside, I got my first introduction to "No more nails" last week.

Got asked to fix a washing line. When I went along I was shown how one end of the washing line had come away from the garage wall. The bracket had been fixed to the wall with....you can guess the rest. :)

PoP

May I suggest an alternative method of fixing ?

Use screw down cable tie bases. ( OK, I admit it will take longer than just banging in some nail type cable grips, but does have it's benefits...) Fix the bases into the wall with screws and wall plugs. Then use cable ties to attach the cables into position on the bases.

With this method you can easily release the cables if you need to and can just pop another cable-tie on to re-secure it.

Use 2.5mm sq clips then, you can put two or three cables under the clip to economise!

Nice tip!

Drilling a pilot hole for part of the nail length allows the nail to grip in the last bit without bending and without shattering the brick.

So now I am sorted for my 2.5mm flat and 5mm round clips.

No change in the little clips though :-(

Cheers Dave R

Trying to find these on Screwfix but not doing too well. Does anyone have a quote number for these?

TIA Dave R

I've used GripFil to hold stuff that you wouldn't believe, and I have yet to have any bond break - excellent stuff but a git to get off your hands. I thought 'No More Nails' was just for lighter DIY jobs, since iirc it is not petroleum based.

Rob

Use a hot glue gun - no problems with chemicals and quite a common solution.

HTH Rob

Thanks to all for responding - using a 7mm round grip for 2 cables keeps the cables in place whilst allowing them to slide through - but I decided that this was fine for this application. No real need to fix them firmly.

Special mention again for Christian's tip of drilling a starter hole for the nail - working well so far!

Cheers Dave R

Variation on a theme, to secure a cable once I drilled holes in the pointing an inserted wood dowels then nailed to these. Made my own clips to do the job with some scraps of lead I had hanging around cut into thin strips.

No More Nails is plenty strong enough to hold up a washing line, but it doesn't survive repeated moisture.

As to the cables, then I have been known to do this for low voltage cable and "garage grade" work, but generally I'd attach a length of either galvanised cable tray, or a wooden batten, then tiewrap or clip the cables to that.

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Something I have found very handy on odd occasions in the past is a box of "pin plugs" - not sure where I got them from, but I bought a box years ago. The ones I have are made by Tower.

They are like small white hard plastic wall plugs with a smaller hole than you would have for a screw type wall plug. You drill a 5mm hole and insert said plug and then nail into it. They work very well for cable clips into surfaces that are either too crumbly or too hard to nail into otherwise.

Hmmm. They sound good. I might try to source some.

Christian.

"Christian McArdle" wrote in news:3fa7dd22$0$250$ snipped-for-privacy@reading.news.pipex.net:

A bit of a google came up with

Its in the middle of a pdf, so I haven't hd time (or ICBA) to dig around for the prices just now.

But as I've never ever succeeded with a masonry nail of any size or type, must be worth a look

mike r

You can get small plastic wall plugs for masonary, that are desgined to take the nails of the cable clips.

yup that is the beastie...