if you don't like it that Americans own handguns, start knocing on
doors and tell the homeowner to surrender all waepons. You might as
well start here in Florida, becasue there are plenty of hungry 'gators
who don't mind a little lead in their food.
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to
Can you give us an example of severe gun control reducing violence? Look to
Washington DC, New York City, and Los Angeles as possible examples to prove
your point. Also, the United Kingdom and Australia may help make your
Actually the law gives a discount to murderers who use chainsaws rather
than guns, in that there is often an extra penalty for using a gun but
none for using a chainsaw ;)
Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
And what would it be if guns in the US were banned? That's the point
you miss--you assume that if the US had laws similar to those in
whatever workers paradise you inhabit then the homicide rate would
also be similar. But you have no evidence to support that contention.
Nor have you to contend that guns are a panacea to prevent crime -
it's clear the stats prove you wrong.
If you want to carry this on, do it in one newsgroup only - preferably
not uk.d-i-y so I don't get to see the crap you're spouting.
What you seem to be missing, laddyboyo..is that when gun ownership was
totally unrestricted in the UK and the US..the murder rate was even
lower in both countries.
London reported (1) firearms murder in 1890, when firearms were
readily available at any hardware store and any self respecting gent
or lady didnt leave home without one.
If one removes the gang murders between minority groups competing for
drug territory..the murder rate between the UK and the US falls to
just within a few points.
So if its not the availiblity of firearms that is the root cause of
the problem..and thats been demonstrated aptly by many nations,
including Switzerland..it has to be something else.
"Its the culture, stupid", or the culture of groups within the
You can blither all you wish, but guns cause crime like flies cause
After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
-0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
But being raped or robbed, let alone murdered, by someone using
something other than a firearm, is morally superior, don'tcha know.
Personally, I think these neo-luddites should be forced to do away
with other modern labor saving devices, in addition to firearms. It
will keep them busy, and in much better shape physically. Not sure it
will improve their mental capacity, but then conservatives aren't really
into that whole "reeducation through labor" thing. We're more inclined
towards "the idle brain is the devil's workshop".
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)
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