Found a alternative to wax seals at home depot that seems to be designed to meet my needs -- looking to see if anyone has had good/bad experiences with this.
From the manufacturers web site:
Thanks in advance! Alan
stacked rings work, and only time will tell if the new fangled crap does.
I've been using one for several years with no problems or seepage. In the past I had to screw around with stacked rings, and still couldn't get a good seal, requiring a couple of trips to the hardware store. (I probably was doing something wrong with the stacked rings, or purchased the wrong one.)
I did ask a plumber who was doing some work in an office building for his thoughts on them. He felt the old wax rings worked fine, why switch when an existing technology has a good track record.
I'm sure you will get a variety of responses on this.
Bob.
Wax seals last, well forever as far as I can tell.
This new product is SOOOOOO good the manufacturer relieves itself of all responsibility after all of 1 year.
Good point. The one I used was from Fluidmaster, purchased from a local ACE hardware.
It was after two trips to ACE with various wax rings that I couldn't get to seal that pushed me to try the new fangled gasket. It's been 3 or 4 years, with no seepage, so far.
Bob.
Wax rings (even stacked) are cheap and proven. No alternative is needed. They are preying on your insecurities.
BB
Fernco has been in the waste plumbing adapter business for a long time, it is likely to be a good product, if used appropriately, the company has a good rep in the biz.
I disagree.
I just experienced for the second time a failure of the wax ring at the base of the toilet.
Both times I was plunging like crazy (low flow toilet woes) and the seal ruptured. This caused a flood of crappy water through the ceiling and walls. You don't want to go there!
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The wax ring is not there to block water. It is to seal against gases.
BB
This thread is a great application of the axiom "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Wax seals are simple, cheap and effective. Why "improve" them?
- AAB or Alan -
- Nehmo - The new product is superior to a wax ring. It's easy to use, fast, not messy, and is forgiving of a small positional error. If you have to take up the stool and put it back, you don't need to get a new ring.
I've used the wax rings plenty of times. I won't use one again unless the new thing is unavailable.
Incorrect. You could not get a gas tight seal. It is also a moist environment where cloth would decompose. The wax ring is not there for blocking water. If you understood the configuration of a toilet and how it works, you would know that. It's not at all complicated.
BB
So maybe you can explain to everyone why water leakage occures when a wax ring fails?
I installed one on my last bathroon remodel. It's easy to install and will compensate for different floor heights. Considering it's a pvc type of plastic with neoprene o-rings to seal out gases and a forming gasket to prevent spash back, I can't see any reason why it would fail in 10 years. Another nice thing is that it's reusable. If you have to lift the toilet for any reason you're not stuck having to go out and buy another wax ring and scraping all the old crap off. I'm in the process of remodeling another one of my bathrooms right now and it will also get the wax free kit.
The kit I bought from Menards included a separate housing for 4" pipe if needed. I think I paid only $6.00 for the kit.
George
It doesn't. If you are leaking at that point, you have another problem. You can mount a toilet with NO wax ring, and if the plumbing is okay, it won't leak a single drop. The wax ring is not there to block water. It's function is to block gases. If you are leaking water through that area, you need to find out the real cause. It isn't the fault of the wax ring.
BB
Old rusty iron closet flanges.
Same reason wax rings also come with a plastic sleeve version.
Not everything in remodeling work is "simple".
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