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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:07:16 -0500, The Daring Dufas

Ive lost clients to Texas, South Carolina, South Dakota ...all in the last 3 yrs. Or they closed their doors and simply quit, many retireing to Idaho or other Free states.
The majority of those fleeing at this point..have gone to Texas...7 of them so far.

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What's your breaking point? When will you decide to pull stakes and depart? Have you considered the question?
I'm in NYS until my parents make the great divide. Won't be long.
. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .
On 8/10/2013 4:21 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 18:11:27 -0400, Stormin Mormon

You almost seem to be relishing the event.
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On 8/10/2013 5:39 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:

That's a little mean, even if it's meant to be a bit funny. O_o
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:22:59 -0500, The Daring Dufaswrote:

Not meant to be anything but an observation. He has spoken of their future deaths several times in very flippant terms. Maybe it's just whistling in the dark to get some bravado to face an unpleasant event.
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On 8/11/2013 5:26 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:

My parents are long dead and buried at Arlington National Cemetery because they were both U.S. Army vets from WWII. My late roommate WT and his two older brothers have been outlived by their WWII vet father who is in his late 80's. The old cuss lied about his age to join the army at age 17 and was one of the paratroopers dropped during the D Day invasion. The WWII vets are fewer every year and my own contemporaries who are Vietnam vets are slipping away too. o_O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKBNw4kfwNM

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typed in alt.survival the following:

Washington's Latest Special Favor Of the nation's 143 refineries, one was exempted from the EPA's ethanol mandate. Why?
Goes on to explain that the EPA's mandate for ethanol use in gasohol blends is increasing, but can't be done, so the bribes to not blend ethanol into the gasoline are approaching a dollar a gallon. For one small refiner, the EPA charge is more than salary and wages.
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:04:06 -0400, Stormin Mormon

I'd say a combined effort. It was commerce that took all the production jobs off shore. It was quite profitable. It's to governments discredit they gave them tax breaks to do so. But the rewards were big enough they would have done it without the government's corporate welfare.

You jump from Reagan to Obama. Let's not forget that Bush (New World Order), Clinton, and Shrub came between. Reagan was fighting the stagflation that resulted from the wind down of the Johnson/Nixon Viet Nam festivities. That stagnated on though Ford and crippled Carter. Reagan engaged in massive spending to get the economy back. It worked and it went on to the all time stock market high under Clinton.
Reagan ran up a huge deficit doing it and Clinton was starting the deficit back down working with a now vibrant economy.
Shrub (to be the domestic president and avoid foreign involvements) took us a trillion dollars deeper in the deficit hole, got us bogged down in two wars that are still sucking up lives and treasure. He dissipated the military's stock of equipment which will be expense to replace (and probably won't be until we get in a real war). He put us on the hook for lifetime care of huge numbers of seriously wounded service people.
By 2006 it was obvious to the most brain dead observer the economy was sliding into the abyss. Anyone with two IQ points to rub together saw it long before that. It actually collapsed on Bush's watch.
He turned over two wars sucking the life out of the country and bankrupt equities, housing, and banking systems to a starry eyed wonder boy full of fine theories.
Bush started the TARPS and other cover names for massive quantitive easing i.e., printing money. Bush presided over the homeless camps and Bushian Hoovervilles. Obama, not at all to his credit, has simply continued the Bush prescription exactly. He's constantly expanded it following the Bush pattern.
And now you somehow want to tell us we went from the good years of Reagan to the depth of Obama with nobody in the middle to blame.

It's the Bush economy, inherited by Obama - who doesn't have a clue how to get us out of the Bush mess. Bush was a fiscal liberal; so is Obama. They have the same "cures" and the cures have the same lack of result.
Try pulling your head out of the sand and look around. And read a little history.
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Blames Bush. Blames Reagan. Condescending. Insulting.
Liberal?
. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .
On 8/10/2013 6:36 PM, Winston_Smith wrote:

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Stormin Mormon wrote:

In truth, most presidents are just riding the tiger when it comes to the economy. The exception is a president that can lie us into a nice little war. Luckily, for presidents that is, a term limit means they can usually slither out of the barroom and leave the tab for the next guy. Eisenhower bagged Kennedy who bagged LBJ who bagged Nixon and so forth. The only innocent might be Kennedy; Lee Harvey and/or anyone else who was busting caps that day dealt him out before he could do much harm. Like Jimmy and Janis, dying young saved him from what might otherwise had been a mediocre career.
Of course, I might have to eat my words if Obama appoints Larry the Loser to the Fed.
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On 8/10/2013 8:03 PM, rbowman wrote:

Any idiot who thinks that The President runs the country is, well, an idiot. Obama can't fix things, he doesn't "legally" have that power. There are more than 500 other malefactors to blame the country's problems on. ^_^
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2013 23:13:27 -0500 typed in alt.survival the following:

    Strange. There seem to be a lot of "Libertarians" who seem to believe otherwise. Or at least seem to believe that if they could only get their guy elected President - He could fix everything. By Executive Order if necessary, apparently.

    More that 500, but .. I get your drift.
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:54:32 -0700, pyotr filipivich

What...so its NOT Bush's Fault???
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pyotr filipivich wrote:

LP members specialize in believing at least three impossible things before breakfast. Do you thing the Democrats and Republicans are any different? Do you think a Republican president in 2016 will fix anything? Do you think the Tea Party contingent, most of whom don't really know the history of their beloved Constitution, would fix anything if they came to power? Have those dirty, commie progressives accomplished much?
I've watched too many swings of the pendulum. One of the better professors in one of my college physics classes was into interesting demonstrations. For one he constructed a pendulum from a bowling ball suspended from about a 20' wire attached to an eye in the ceiling of the lecture hall. He held the ball firmly against his chin, let it go, and stood immobile. Of course, the ball did not knock him on his ass on its return, much to the disappointment of the class. A pendulum only swings back and forth within defined constraints and left to its own devices will eventually stop at its equilibrium point.
Conservatives would like to reach out, grab the ball, and hold it stationary but it always slips out of their fingers. Progressives would like to speed the pendulum up but their random pushes never in crease the amplitude to get it beyond the range of isochronism.
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wrote:

and you seem to not understand the difference between small (L) libertarians and those that belong to the Libertarian Party.
The difference is rather vast..and is almost as wide as the difference between the Left and the Right.
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On 8/11/2013 12:23 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

I suppose Libertarians with a small "l" are the true individuals who believe in freedom and liberty so much that they don't want to belong to any group because a big organized group will always bastardize the ideals that caused the formation of said group. Being free is hard. ^_^
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On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:48:31 -0500, The Daring Dufas

True indeed. Ive followed the Libertarian Party for decades as many of their bleeves echo mine. Frankly however...its been Dope First, Political Freedom a distant second, and has largely been composed of every wierdo, wackjob and oddball that were 120 degrees out, from the wierdos, wackjobs and oddballs on the Left.
There are a growing number of people with (small L) Libertarian leanings in the Republican party..but so far..the Republican Party is still controlled by the Rinos/weak sisters and Blue Bloods on the East Coast. And they are what are holding the GOP back. They have to go.
I suspect that the Tea Party will finally take control of the GOP..but it will take another decade or two.
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On 8/11/2013 6:35 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

When religious wackos got control of the Republican Party it was just as bad as Commies getting control of The Democrat Party. Where have all the sane people in government gone? O_o
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On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:50:22 -0500, The Daring Dufas

Which "religious wackos" were those? Ill be waiting for the cites to those "religious wackos" who got control of the Republican party.
Please..use as much white space as necessary.
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:19:34 -0500, The Daring Dufas

Of course the Leftwing press does. You havent figured out yet that thats one of their tried and true tactics? They have done this for 30 yrs. And you are just now discovering this factoid????
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