Let's keep things in perspective.
1 liter lead-free gas (Euro 95) costs about Euro 1,35 in Wageningen, the
1 Euro = US $1.418 as of 10/14/07
1 gallon (US, liquid) = 3.78 liter
So lead-free gas (Euro 95) costs:
3.78*1.418*1.35= US $7.24/gallon
Near here in New Jersey, a cheap station (Woroco) sells unleaded regular
Happy driving in Europe!
Using the official exchange rate of $ vs euro, gas used to be twice as
expensive in Europe as here in Jersey. Now it is a 3-fold difference.
In part because the US$ has devalued so much. About 5 years ago, a euro
was $0.85 or so. Now it is $1.42. From the perspective of worldwide
competition, it is "good" for the US manufacturer and worker in the
export fields. Eventually, it'll be rather bad for the ordinary
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 2:39pm (EDT+4) email@example.com (Han) doth sayeth:
<snip> Near here in New Jersey, a cheap station (Woroco) sells unleaded
regular for $2.45/gallon <snip>
The down side there would be living in New Jersey.
"I'm an Igor, thur. We don't athk quethtionth."
"Really? Why not?"
"I don't know, thur. I didn't athk."
You forgot to add the three quarter of a trillion dollars YOU and I
have spent on Iraq - so far. The 3,800 lives - well how do you put
a dollar value on them? Don't know about NJ gas prices but
I just pumped $3.119 per gallon for 87 octane here in CA and a
barrel of oil was at $89 today. Was hovering around $60 a barrel
BII (Before Invading Iraq). Far as I can tell, based on the profits
statements of the major oil companies, we're paying more than
just the pump price for our gasoline. Now I know that some of
the price increase is attributable to increased demand from
China and India - but . . .
having an imperial and metric tape measure and a digital caliper
that can be switched between decimal inches, fractional inches
and mm does make transitioning / converting.
Churchill said something like democracy is the worst system on earth, but
there is nothing better.
Somebody else said that if ou repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the
As an immigrant in 1969 I have fared rather well.
What with China making all the tools, we're slowly indoctrinating them into
the Imperial system. Then all the stuff that goes to Europe, etc., will be
in FPS measurements and all will come back to that which has worked so well.
Look, MKS (Meter/Kilogram/Second) is okay for science and whatnot, but it
just doesn't work for human use.
"A pint's a pound the world around" and it will be again.
But it could. The conversion is what's difficult. When gasoline is sold by the
liter, who gives a shit about the gallon? We'd see one gas station selling gas
for 64 cents per liter and the station on the other side of the street is
selling it for 69 cents, how tough is it to figure out? We will figure out that
our cars can go 500 km on a tank, which will hold maybe 60 liters. It won't
take all that long to become comfortable with it. If Europe was able to manage
it, why the hell couldn't we? Aren't we smart enough?
Why should one _want_ to "become comfortable with it"? If I get a new
pair of boots and walk in them a while I'll be comfortable in them,
but if there's nothing wrong with my old boots why should I bother?
And you seem to be ignoring the fact that the English system, parts of
which go back to Rome, was to a substantial extent designed around the
: Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
:>> Look, MKS (Meter/Kilogram/Second) is okay for science and whatnot,:>> but it just doesn't work for human use.
:> It works in 80% of the world. It CAN work here if we want it to.
: So give us a reason to want it to. If you don't like the US then move
: somewhere more to your liking. Part of freedom is the freedom to
And no country hs ever voluntarily adopted the metric system -- it's always
been legislated and forced upon the citizenry.
-- Andy Barss
You got that bass ackwards. Many countries changed from imperial to metric.
When I was a kid, there were still imperial nuts and bolts and tools in use in
Germany. By the time I was a teen, they had disappeared. When I moved to New
Zealand in the early 1980ies everybody was still talking inches and feet (so I
converted) but by now I seem the only one still using inches for timber size
<grin>, everybody else uses mm -- actually I use mm as measurement for doing my
joinery, I just think to _order_ 4x1 and 6x2 etc.
Trust me, metric is a heck of a lot easier to use, and makes a lot more sense
than fractions. One look at a metric ruler next to an imperial one will
illustrate what I mean.
Of course I can appreciate that using fractions acts like a kind of mental
aerobics to keep the grey matter working.
OT (because it's metalwork) but still relevant is my experience that metric
threads work better than imperial ones. I have had a lot more trouble with
imperial screws and bolts on machinery shaking/working loose than with metric.
Coarse metric is finer and the pitch is different. Fine metric (as found on H/T
bolts for instance) is even better still in demanding applications.
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