Well, as you've stated, there may be more to the story than what we've
For all we know, the kid took the gun/toy/whatever to school on one or
more occasions. Maybe the kid threatened to use it on someone at the
school. Granted, the school might well be overstepping their grounds,
but I do suspect there's a more direct connection to the school than
currently reported. We'll see.
Yes, I did read it, ALL of it and I know exactly what it said. And,
like I stated, up to this point, we have that one report to go on.
It's very possible that report is completely accurate, but it's just
as possible, in fact just as likely that there's more factual
information to appear in this matter.
As several people have stated and something with which I fully agree,
information reporting agencies have a very great tendency to
sensationalize what they report. Neither of us have any proof to the
contrary. I could be wrong, but I fully expect there's more
information to come forth in this particular incident. Let's just see
I do agree with the fact that there appears to be many people and
organizations reacting unreasonably with the gun controversy in
America. But, what do you expect? There appears to be so many random
and unreasonable acts of gun violence, the general public should be
concerned. How can you expect them to act otherwise?
To the best of my knowledge the following city codes apply.
City Code 38-3, primarily section (d) Notwithstanding any
other provisions of this section, it shall be unlawful for any
person to discharge any firearm, spring-propelled rifle or
pistol, from, on, across or within one hundred fifty (150)
yards of any building, dwelling, street, sidewalk, alley,
roadway or public land or public place within the city
Section (f) No person shall use a pneumatic gun in the area
of the city described in (a) above except (i) at approved
shooting ranges or (ii) on or within private property with
permission of the owner or legal possessor thereof when
conducted with reasonable care to prevent a projectile from
crossing the bounds of the property. For purposes of this
subsection, "pneumatic gun" means any implement designed as a
gun that will expel a BB or a pellet by action of pneumatic
pressure, including but not limited to paintball guns.
Further, for the purpose of this subsection "reasonable care"
means that the pneumatic gun is discharged in a manner so the
projectile is contained on the property by a backstop, earthen
embankment or fence. The discharge of projectiles across or
over the bounds of the property shall create the rebuttable
presumption that the use of the pneumatic gun was not
conducted with reasonable care and shall constitute a Class 3
When he shot something other than a target it was illegal.
Again, I don't condone the school becoming involved, they are
completely out of their jurisdiction. The subject of the
original post was dead on, it's out of control and has been
for a long time. We're on the same side here I'm just pointing
out what I believe to be facts.
You gotta watch out for infowars.com and make sure you have the
full story. There was discussion of this on another forum I
frequent. While I don't agree with the 9 month suspension, he
broke the law. City code bans the use of BB and pellet guns
within the city limit.
Again, I don't agree with suspension and am not siding with the
decision, in fact I vehemently disagree with it and agree with
most of what has been posted, but the use of such "toys" was
clearly banned in city code.
But airsoft guns are legal. You're right, Infowars can't be trusted. Look up
the real story, there is more to it. The principal was wrong in the charges
though. An airsoft gun does not legally fit the definition of a firearm. The
parents should sue to have that invalidated.
Another tragic happening:
As far as the Airsoft thing. Another unintended consequence of banning
firearms ... the Japs, unable to own them, are so fixated with making
them as real as possible down to every detail, make them
indistinguishable from the real thing.
Now, some criminals have taken to painting the orange tip (or whatever
the damned color the tips of airsoft stuff is) on real guns to fool police.
Point: damned difficult to blame the police, who want to go home to
their families after work as much as we do, for doing what happened above.
On Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:38:03 AM UTC-4, Mike Marlow wrote:
I don't understand how the principal even thinks for a minute that he has any jurisdiction over that child. I would take that to the school board immediately. That kid shouldn't have to wait until January to have them convene.
This anti-gun stuff is getting ridiculous and Obama and Mario Cuomo are just feeding the fire.
Back when I was a kid we never used knives or guns on people we were pissed off at. We used the time old tradition of beating the shit out of each other and then being best friends afterwards.
Half of the problems of this world is people aren't teaching their children any morals or values. They just spit 'em out and collect the welfare check.
And, that was my world growing up too. Unfortunately, for whatever
reason, it's not that way anymore. There's a lot of advantages in
today's society, but there seems to be just as many problems with it
too. Guess that's the status quo.
I don't agree at all. These acts have been going on since there has
been man. The difference is that now we have a press that is just as
blood thirsty as those who watch them. Blood a gore sells. People
are rooting for the lions.
Quite possibly. But, I think many would disagree with you. When I was
a kid, like many others, I went through a great degree of hell from
being bullied. Then when I put on some size and weight, I in turn
became a bully for a period. It was a learned behaviour and one which
I fully regret.
There never was any type of program or attempt to eliminate bullying
when I was a kid. Now, at least there's awareness of it and an attempt
to curb much of it. Much can be said for other many other social
actions these days. Sure, these programs may not be working as well as
could be hoped, but that doesn't mean it's a completely wasted effort.
In a way, I have to agree up to a point. There's a lot of screwed up
things these days. But, there's also sections of my growing up that I
remember as terrifying. I hated it ~ right up until I was 14 and
gained 85 lbs in 11 months. Nobody picked on me after that.
Not all people outgrow the fear, whether it'd bullying *or* dodge
ball. Yeah, I know what krw is going to say ~ that it's part of
growing up. Well, there's a hell of a lot of really screwed up people
out there and I have to wonder if the bullying *or* the dodge ball had
anything to do with creating those f**ked up people?
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