That area had to deal with Hurricane Beulah in 1967, IIRC. I lived in
Corpus Christi and we were on the dirty side of that storm, we had
street flooding for two straight days.
BUT I wish the best for all of your relatives that got caught up in this
There is still severe flooding a few miles from our home.
It's getting hard to buy without an HOA, anymore. Developers use them
to protect themselves during build-out, then dump the mess on the
homeowners. Ours may have gotten the message that we're not
interested (haven't heard from them since the last annual meeting but
this year's is next Saturday).
On 9/3/2017 9:12 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
In the Houston area the HOA takes over where the local governments leave
off. Our HOA pays for landscape crews to keep up with the common areas
and the entrances. The HOA pays for maintenance around the neighborhood
and pays for street lighting, mosquito control, etc.
I actually prefer to be in a strict HOA, you can not buy in a
neighborhood with knowing and agreeing to the rules and regulations.
Our HOA is not terrible to deal with....I'm the president. ;~) But we
do want residents to pay their dues and to not be the eye sore on the
The only common areas we have are the two entrances to the subdivision
(~70 homes). The HOA plants annuals around the signs and mows around
them (big deal). I'd prefer they plant perennials and ditch the
signs. They serve no purpose, now that the subdivision is completely
build. They also bought an unbuildable lot off the last developer
(the first went bust in '08) for some unknown reason. It would make a
lousy park or whatever. It's at the edge of the development and would
only serve as a place for kids to drink (and whatever). That's what
the cul-de-sacs were before the subdivision was built out.
The problem is that everyone has a different definition of "eyesore"
and the definition charges dramatically over time. It's not just
"eyesore" that changes, either.
On 9/4/2017 7:50 PM, email@example.com wrote:
Down here and I suspect there too, the developers are board members on
the HOA. Until the subdivision is actually built out the developer's
remains on the board. Purchasing the unbuildable lot from the developer
"down here" would mean that the HOA would be able to elect it's own home
owner board members and do what is best for the HOA vs what is best for
the developer. Our neighborhood is about 12 years old but the HOA was
not controlled by the home oners until about 6 years ago.
Well that is true but when you buy into a subdivision with a HOA "here"
you agree to the terms or you cannot close on the house. So by
initialing that you agree to the terms, you agree. If you have problems
with that you have no one to blame but yourself.
Not pointing the finger at you, just speaking figuratively.
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 10:45:16 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
In my opinion, Texas should have a "universal code" or some kind of promulg
ated, recognized rule set for HOAs. Some here are tyrannical, and some are
like toothless old dogs that can only bark.
I work in small developments that I charge the daylights out of for everyth
ing because of the HOAs. If I repair a roof, I have to certify in writing
that I searched to find the closest match shingle to the existing. So if O
.C.'s Estate Gray is off by a shade or two, they can require the homeowner
try another factory run. ALL paint colors for everything must be approved
by an architectural committee. Same with landscaping, same with types of pl
ants and grasses, sprinkler systems, types of trees (no nut trees), and on
a on. No animal feeding;, no birds, squirrels, hummingbirds, or deer.
My dumpsters have to be graffiti free, and if graffiti appears over a weeke
nd, I must replace the dumpster. As a rule, I don't use rusted or damaged
dumpsters, but these guys require that I net the top of it every night and
lock the door as well. I have to charge to haul siding to a place where it
isn't viewable from the street from any angle. So even when siding is del
ivered, we haul it to the back of the house and stack it, then haul it to t
he front as needed. Even I am starting a siding job the moment the siding
is delivered, I have it all hauled to the rear.
I cannot start work earlier than 9am, nor work later than 5pm. You don't ma
ke money in construction working those hours, and if it is 4pm, and the nex
t step could take two hours, you pack up and go home. Add the extra time t
o the client's bill and start up the next day where you left off. The HOA
vigilantes call the police if your truck is parked going against traffic.
They call the police to alert them if your employees have a truck that has
a ground clearance (14", I think).
They write HOA "citations" for excessive noise. No equipment can be left vi
sible at the end of the day, period. A small loader or lift, nope. Scaffo
lding must have a "permit" from the HOA that is approved by the architectur
al committee for a certain amount of time.
Remodeling is almost impossible as they control every aspect of design, fin
ish materials and even finish out materials. For their very lives, the HOAs
can't figure out why contractors hate them. It isn't just the funny littl
e man with the big paunch in his baggy shorts with his spindly white legs,
his black socks in white dress shoes walking a chihuahua with his coolray b
ifocals that snoops around on the job, interrupts your workers, reminds the
m of rules they don't care about, and asks stupid questions.
It is because they can stop your job anytime, even if they don't know what
you are doing. If you don't stop at any time when they want you to, they c
an fine the homeowner (my client). They can take a homeowner to court anyt
ime and force them to pay both sides of the legal teams.
That represents almost all of the HOAs that were started about 20 years ago
to now. Older HOAs, they got nothing. They can make suggestions, but tha
t's it. If there is a rule about one thing or another, they don't have the
money to take anyone to court. Besides, the language of the HOA articles
is so loose it simply says that "this or that isn't allowed". No indicatio
n of penalty should that situation occur.
Can't say about Houston. They are screwy to begin with due to their lack o
f zoning and bizarre building codes. It will, no doubt, be a challenge for
my brother in law since he is the long standing president of their HOA.
Truthfully, I think there is so much devastation in Texas now that just get
ting folks dry, safe and accounted for is the priority. One of the FEMA gu
ys said on TV "this wasn't going to be another New Orleans". I think they
mean it. Don't forget that the former mayor or New Orleans, the guy that O
prah cried and hugged on TV many times, the guy that was lauded a such a gr
eat humanitarian, a sensitive guy that put his people first... is still in
prison for stealing just about every thing he could. In fact, he has just
been called out of prison to be deposed on more corruption charges. His re
lease date is at this point up for speculation.
Once again, we will see.
Yes, and has veto power over the board. That's why I said that HOAs
are designed to protect the builder during build-out. He couldn't
care what happens after.
It's just one lot (and the last one). The builder has ultimate
control until he sells the last house.
About half the subdivision was built in 2006 and 2007. Wen the fit
hit the shan in 2008, the builder went bust (with some foundations
started) and the other half of the lots reverted back to the bank. A
new builder bought the property from the bank in 2014 and finished the
subdivision in 2015 and 2016 (finishing the houses on those 8YO
foundations). The HOA bought the unbuildable lot in 2016, IIRC, just
as the last of the homes were selling. Note that the builder(s), nor
the bank paid any HOA fees.
The fact is that the rules *can* change after the game begins.
Understand. I don't know if being appointed to an HOA board makes
people crazy or if it's only the crazy people who sit on HOA boards.
Not pointing a finger at you, just speaking figuratively. ;-)
On 9/5/2017 12:30 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
LOL. I always went to the meetings and one day the HOA VP visited me
and indicated that the secretary resigned. He asked if I would be
willing to fill that spot, I accepted. FF about a year and the board
made me president. I keep getting reelected with no opposition and
reassigned to hold the president position.
It's also something given to you because you didn't step backwards
You do have a point, though. I think twice before I speak at our
annual meeting. My mouth may earn me something my ass doesn't want to
On 9/5/2017 8:54 PM, email@example.com wrote:
IIRC they don't make you take a management position, they ask you.
Whether you take it or not is strictly up to you.
Having always been in a management position since 21, it was not that
big of a deal for me.
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 3:32:26 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
I remember temporary exclusions being made from time to time.
I read the City Codes (you can look them up easily if you are asking as mor
e than a talking point) and they are very specific regulations on number of
axles, length of trailers, specifics on equipment, equipment trailers, and
on a on. So a dual axle RV falls under the City Codes, as does a dual axle
trailer of any type, including livable trailers.
It is illegal to park any vehicle, trailer, piece of equipment, implement o
f anything that resembles those examples off an "improved" surface. So you
can't just haul out trailer and put it in your backyard or alongside the h
ouse. Any of those things has to be parked on asphalt, concrete, or "other
wise improved" surfaces. The intent is that they don't want grandparents t
railer hauled into the front yard (or backyard)of a subdivision and have it
sink in the yard up to the axles.
Not to park it, but to leave it for a length of time, yes. We have a limit
on how long they can stay if they have dual axles. We have another ordina
nce that keep people from hooking up to electric, sewer and water services
for more than a few days. No one wants to hear the generators running all
night, see oozing sewer pipes, the lights hanging off the sides of the trai
lers so the occupants can sit outside and drink beer. Citizen complaints c
an greatly shorten the time allowed to have a living unit on your property.
To be clear, some RVs are too large to be allowed. IIRC, Houston's length
ban is 20'. No one wants to see some weekend warrior that is used to drivi
ng nothing large than his minivan trundling down crowded streets, or trying
to back into a narrow driveway jackknifing the trailer while he blocks the
streets figuring out how to back a trailer he uses twice a year. And some
people guests just don' know when to leave.
The biggest problem that we had here before all the mountain of ordinances
were passed was that people drug trailers into their driveways and used it
as a permanent bedroom for their elderly relatives, unruly teenagers and ev
en party houses to watch sporting events. Pretty convenient; you have plac
e to watch the event, a fridge for the beer, and even weatherproof conditio
ns to do it in. Some of those trailer stayed in the driveways for YEARS, Y
EARS, axles rusted solid, non working brakes, and sitting on cinder blocks
since the tires had long rotted out.
Most likely there will be a great amount of leeway and discretion shown in
trailer use and placement due to the incredible severity of the housing sho
rtage. In the hundreds of briefings and updates that have followed in the l
ast tend days, I did catch one where the FEMA guys responded about the trai
ler availability and use and he said they were proceeding quickly but caref
ully, adding that they had "learned a lot since Katrina".
Guess we will see. I don't think anyone knows exactly what is going to hap
pen on any long term aspects of this situation yet. I have been in touch w
ith my sister quite a bit and at last the water is out of her house. But t
hey are still pretty much on their own, hauling out all their furniture and
belongings by themselves. All the aid is still focused on relocating peop
le, feeding them, and secondary searches of houses and debris, cleanup, etc
On 9/4/2017 12:57 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
My first reaction is, under the circumstances just suspend the
regulations for three to six months. Upon second thought, after the
allotted time how do you get them moved out? Nothing good would come of
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