REQ: New Yankee Workshop Deluxe Router Station Plans

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Hi, Could some kind person email a complete set of plans to build Norm's router station.

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TIA

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[Mike in Mystic]

why don't you try paying for them at the new yankee website?

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TIA

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[Dave Hinz]

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You can buy them from Norm. Why would you think someone here who has bought them, would help you steal them?

Oh, and when you post in HTML it makes your messages hard to read amongst all the control characters and such.

See what I mean?

[SeeAll]

Hi,

I've been using the internet for 15+ years and over those years the web has been taken over by selfish individuals. The spirit of the internet is to freely share information. When you have finished with an item you post it for others to share. I suppose it is to be expected that has more and more people use the medium commercialism moves in. I will try other boards of which thankfully there are many.

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[Lee Michaels]

Whatever hippy ideal you are babbling about, it is called stealing. If you can fins some theives to hang out with, fine.

Just don't give us the nostalgia and morality speech.

It is repugnant.

[Mike in Arkansas]

Can you spell COPYRIGHT?

[Lew Hodgett]

Hey cheap skate, buy the plan or don't you recognise copyright laws?

Lew

[Brian Siano]

Sorry, but that's copyrighted material.

Can't you design your own router table?

[Steve DeMars]

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TIA

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[Hax Planx]

It is a copyright violation and disrespectful to a person we like to support. I will concede the plans are over priced, as are most plans, and why I don't buy them.

[SeeAll]

Hi All,

Just to let the selfish members know some kind person, or hippy, has very kindly emailed a copy of his plans. Sharing still does exist.

Thanks

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[Dave in Fairfax]

I started using computers in the late '60s, as have many on this NG, so please don't give me any stuff about your bona fides. Freeware is a wonderful thing as is shareware. If a person decides to copyleft their publications, that's one thing, if it's copywritten, however, that's a different thing. Stealing is an entirely subject and can not be excused by bleating about the ways of the net. If you truly don't understand the difference, go steal a copy from a store and see if they can explain it to you. \disgust mode off

Dave in Fairfax

[HMFIC-1369]

Not many of you give things much thought. You can see that this guy wants something for nothing, which he does. On the other hand, should the Federal Government have the Right to stop anyone from sharing something you no longer need. Think about the full consequences, they now copyright words and phrases, the limit to ownership is limitless and the enforcement thereof limitless.......... Even having a yard sale families can be prosecuted. I agree that abuses are rampant, but it isn't the blame. Currently the movie industry is crying the blues blaming the internet (not DVD rentals) for it's losses, and they haven't produced a movie of any quality, 98 percent have been horrible, but they can advertise out the ass and buyer beware! Well how about they be beware also. Things that have short life spans movies, music and software should not have the same ownership rights as that of a classic piece of art. You can buy an application today tomorrow they're out of business or have been bought out, no more support and then they release a new version rendering the one you bought obsolete and incompatible and 3 months later you have to buy it again. If they want copyright privileges, then they should be held responsible for providing owners with specific product upgrades and support for the life of the product.....

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[Chuck Taylor]

Copyright has been around far longer than both the Internet and your self-serving notion of what its "spirit" is. Freeloading twit.

[Duane Bozarth]

If you no longer need it, there's absolutely nothing preventing you from it to anyone else (or even selling it). What is proscribed is making copies for the express purpose of evading copyright protection...

[Duane Bozarth]

That long, huh...wow!

Yes, it has, but in the diametrically opposed direction of which you seem to speak... :(

finished with an item you post it for others to share. ...

That's a wholly different concept than deliberately using it to evade copyright and steal another's work...

[Lew Hodgett]

Actually, it depends of the terms of the original purchase agreement.

When I bought a set of plans to build my boat, I received a license to build ONE (1) boat.

If I wanted to build several boats, or sell the plans, or give away the plans when I'm done with them, that is another matter.

Lew

[gw]

Are you referring to selfish cheapskates like yourself who won't fork over a couple of bucks for somebody else's hard work? Twit.

[Upscale]

You have a really poor grasp of the concept of ownership. Copyright, patent or whatever, someone else created it and that gives them certain rights to protection. Just because you don't consider what someone has created to be a work of art doesn't automatically dismiss their right to protecting it.

I'd like to see what you'd have to say if you created a piece of software or made a movie and then watched as people downloaded it for free while you lost money from poor sales.

Not saying I've never downloaded anything I shouldn't have, just that I'm not going to advocate it or lobby for it online.

[Dave Hinz]

Alarmist and irrelevant to the situation at hand. Guy wants a free copy of something that is a commercial product. Just because I own a copy doesn't mean I own the right to give away copies of it. Hardly the same thing as a rummage sale.

I'm the _last_ person to defend how the MPAA and RIAA idiots do business, but - if it's worth watching, it's worth paying for. If you don't want to pay for it because it's 98% crap, well then, don't just steal it because it's no good, just don't _get_ it because it's no good. "I'm going to steal this because it's not worth what they're asking" isn't gonna cut it - if it's not worth it, don't steal it.

Why? You buy something, you buy it with the terms and conditions it's sold under. Some software is great about this, some software is not. Their upgrade policy should be something you consider when you decide if you want to buy a package or not. Again, stealing a package just because you don't like how they do upgrades, is just pretending you're making an ethical statement when you're really just stealing from the software developer whose product you're using without paying for. Been there, done that, stopped writing shareware because of that sort of people.