If the table jumped that high, fast enough to make a difference, you'd have two to five hundred pounds of cast iron flying up and hitting you in the face, which would be just about as bad as shaking hands with the blade.
Not a great idea.
CJ
If I am going to have to splain and figure all this out I might as well petition the government to go with my ideas...;~) Imagine... a hole every 5 or 10 degrees along the perameter of the blade.. This just popped into my head... Oh and the pin should be pointed so that it will go right in ...
How about the table tip simply jumps up 4 inches with hydraulics. The blade has not moved or stopped but the table simply raised instantly above the blades cutting capacity.
Imagine if some one spent a year thinking about a better saw stop...
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Geees Jim,, I have NOOOOOOO control over any of this...Just my opinion.....I can give away nothing of yours and visa versa.... I really had no idea that I was so threatening
I bought that _option_ for SWMBO's Windstar.
-Doug
If Saw Stop gets their way, it will be the CPSC and Saw Stop dictating what contstitute his wants and needs.
That's fine. He can damned well buy the device if he wants to.
But if he has no choice, then it's the government going Nanny State that's causing that.
I can tell you what sort of governments require people to do certain mandatory things that free people would balk at, and they're socialist governments.
I don't want to see us go there.
As for thinking of ourselves, we all do, all the time. Everybody else is of secondary importance to each of us, with the possible exceptions of our own closest family members.
I won't sacrifice any freedoms for security.
CJ
No, but this kind of opinion, expressded in conjunction with many others (probably not a majority, but a large enough group to be loud) is responsible for the implementation of a significant number of laws and regulations that continue to erode our liberties by mandating, at the point of a gun, some "desired" behavior on the part of US citizens.
The problem is that too @#$#% many people *are* putting together wish lists and getting the statists in our government to mandate the contents of those lists.
Ben Franklin's application was slightly different, but his words are applicable: "Those who would give up a little liberty for security, deserver neither liberty nor security"
IIRC it's on the device, i.e. stop sign, measures the rate of approach, and signals the car if it detects it's not going slow enough to stop. Must be something along the same lines, sonar/radar.
Oh so you are going to decide for all of us what is to be considered a threat to public safety and what is not... Public high school shop class TS....they dont need it... hell they are just learning and they are our kids that do not provide much income. Small shop employees that buy none of the eauipment but get hurt way too often...
Well I don't know where you live but the city building inspectors do inspect for correct wiring that conforms to code. That does not happen where you live?
With the exception of what saw you buy, I doube you will notice any loss of freedom... Loss of freedom is a broad and sweeping term. You will of course loose the choice to buy a new saw with out this feature if the petition goes through.
Lets see Doug were you the one or the other Doug that likes to use the term Hypocrite. In the same paragraph...aw. just reread the above paragraph.
Apologies accepted and absolutely not necessary... This is all just lively discussion and tempers get a bit out of whack now and then... It has been a long long time since I have been the target.. Ha.
Why? because they are not shipping the saws? good enough reason? You keep harping on the same "buy one now" but no matter how much you want one, they are not on the market, they are not available, they are not in the stores.
I'd consider one on my nest saw also. Why next? I have no idea when, if ever, I'll buy another saw and I don't know when they will ship so I cannot plan on getting one just yet.
Until they start manufacturing and shipping, you should find a real argument. You just sound silly asking the same question when the answer is so obvious. THEY DON'T EXIST YET. Ed
Boy... so yours is the openion that should be observed and not mine... Living in a free country entitles the citizens to voice their views... I value yours and mine.
That is the American way .... I believe.. Perhaps if those people that are sick and tired of those people that are getting things passes by the government were to push back a little harder, things might be more to your liking.
But did you also read the PATENT CLAIMS ?
I am not really sure any more Rob... ;~) I have been in here for so long today that I think that I am answering my self... LOL Good night and thanks for the lively conversation.....
Be careful.. Leon
While we are on a slightly different OT subject... ;~)
As I have to a couple of others, and at lease the other Doug, ;~)
I also wish to extend to you my apologies if I have offended you in any way during this lively SawStop discussion. While we don't see eye to eye on this subject, thank God that we live in a country where this is OK. You do live in the USA don't you... ;~) Yeah,,, you do...
Any way we have both been on this news group way to long to let a simple discussion create a cold atmosphere among ourselves.
It would probably be a good idea for some one to copy past this entire thread to the government and to SawStop and let them see how the group views this issue.. I think it would send a stronger message than other forms of voicing ones views. I probably should not be the one to speak for those against the issue.. ;~)
Any way.. good night and be careful
Leon
Think about it.
You'd need to move a cast iron table top four inches in maybe ONE millisecond?
That's a foot every three milliseconds, or 333 and a third feet per second! That works out to a little more than 227 miles per hour!
The table would disintegrate under the stresses and you'd need a few hundred horsepower to drive the table that hard anyway!
CJ
Le> "Chris Johnson" > >
My spell checker has a mind if it own..... Some time I have to misspell a word 6 or 7 times to get it to accept it... ;~)
Opinion...... I think I hit Accept all instead of correct all...
Good night... I think.
Yeah so what is the problem here....I got 600 hp driving my saw..;~)
If you were to look closely at the proposed Spec., you would see that it would be fairly impossible to meat it without either violating the patent, or licensing it. I've seen enough lockout spec's in my time to spot this one a mile away.
Jeez, Leon. At least update your spell checker for openion -> opinion. You've been using that on every post, so it's not a one time thing.
-Doug
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