Re: 3rd RFD: rec.woodworking.all-ages

usenet to vote no.

Tim Douglass

There is nothing more fun than following the tracks in an archived world. Oops, I'm being rude and disrespectful to a, uh, what? A hypocrite?

- - LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

First of all, profanity is the FU** word, the SH** word, the C*** word. You know. Stuff you can't say on radio or network television. An occasional slip like that would not be awful. "Damn" is a grey word, and depending on how it's used determines how bad it is. The way Vito used it there is not too bad, though I am still uncomfortable with it.

Second of all, that was posted before Vito's accident when he was a different man. That was before he rediscovered his faith in God. People are allowed to repent. God will forgive sinners if they turn to Jesus. Even in the old days, Vito didn't use language like some of the wreckers do. You will not find The FU** word, the SH** word, or the C*** word in any of his posts. Dig away.

What did happen to vito...??? mjh

Would Canadians be allowed ......mjh

I think I know the FU** word and the SH** word, but what is the C*** word? Is the second letter R, O or U?

UA100

Only with consent from Americans :-P

Jimi

That's a curious (convenient?) definition of profanity. Including "damn" as a profane word is unremarkable.

That's irrelevant. It's also distracting to be preaching Christianity in the context of an RFD for a woodworking group. Yeah, Jesus was a carpenter, but that is not near enough a connection to make it germane.

yours, Michael

You all can't even decide amongst yourselves what the Forbidden Words are, and you expect to be taken seriously?

What if I find the word "poopie-head" to be offensive? Does that mean I should go and set up a splinter group from your "rec.no-fun.woodworking" group? Are you going to make sure any potentially racist words are censored? How about foreign language cursewords?

Hmmmm ... I think your group is misnamed. It should be rec.holier-than-thou.woodworkers-for-jeezus

HTH.

Chuck Vance Just say (tmPL) I can't decide whether we need to get out the Klown Hammuh or the Klue Bat.

So what age is it suitable for ? You're putting forward an "all ages" proposal, and now you're backtracking that _some_ profanity is OK because it's not so bad after all.

Get a clue iron

I see, I think. But since this is the internet, and worldwide, I have some information for you - profanity varies across the globe. The sh** word you seem worried about is used on tv in most places outside the puritanical USA. In some countries the C*** and F*** words are commonplace. So, is this rec.woodworking.all-ages.usa or rec.woodworking.all-ages.global?

Say hi to Ned Flanders for me.

You seem to be implying that use of the FU** word, the SH** word, or the C*** word, is a sin. If you ARE saying that, I'd like to see evidence.

Conan the Librarian wrote in news:ciuf1j$k57$1 @news.swt.edu:

I suggest a clue-by-four.

Better check your dictionary, Susan. Those are _vulgarities_.

"Damn", "G**damn", and "Hell" are profanities: "Profane: characterized by irreverence for God or sacred things."

So things like "what a dumba**" or "you bet your a**" would be ok, huh? You can say those on the radio, or on network TV. Those didn't used to be permitted, I wish they still weren't, but that's the way it is.

That's fine -- I'm right glad to hear it. But that does not in any way qualify him, or you, to moderate a newsgroup. You still haven't answered _any_ of the myriad objections that have been raised to the idea of having the two of you as moderators.

BTW -- it appears from the previous discussions that you and Vito are sharing living quarters. It further appears, from the difference in surnames, that you and Vito are not married. Isn't this a bit odd for two professing born-again Christians?

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Hey, Unisaw -- what's a four-letter word for "woman" that ends in U-N-T ?

Answer: v v v v v v v v v v v

A-U-N-T, of course.

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"my narrow and ill-conceived definition of"

Are you an adult, or just some mal-adjusted 4th grader? You can't type the words out, even if they're out of context? How are the rest of we, the unwashed masses, to know when we've crossed the line? Or is it an "I'll know it when I see it" kind of thing?

Will we be assigned some sort of grading system? Kinda like the DMV points system? What if I slip up and type "merde" into an otherwise relevant, on-topic post. Will I lose points? If I lose all my points will my posting privileges be revoked? Or would you mercifully allow "an occasional slip" to go unnoticed?

So "damn" is probably OK, but "goddamn" or "damn it all to hell", perhaps not. Will there be an index for us to reference while posting?

Damn, you are a fragile thing, aren't you? To allow simple words to have so much influence over your mood and state of mind must be a real challenge.

Well, we've been dancing around this since the original RFD was posted, but now here it is, naked and unvarnished. These proposals have not been about a friendlier rec.woodworking.*, they have been about legislated morality. Specifically, Christian morality. Except that the underlying belief system had been obscured so that voters would not know that they were really voting on rec.woodworking.christians-only.

If you really want a Christians-only woodworking group, go start alt.woodworking.christians. We don't need to split the rec.woodworking namespace for this.

My (now ex-) wife and I were married by Ulster Free Presbyterians, the sort who make Lutherans look like real party animals. I wasn't even allowed to kiss the bride until standing well clear of the church steps. Yet she kept her maiden name, and the church had no problem with that.

snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote in news:PWz4d.7736$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:

They don't need to answer those questions. They are no longer planning to be moderators.