OT Sink Hole in small Texas town east of Houston

It has made the national news now, a giant 500' x 600' x 150' deep sink hole has formed inside a small Texas town. It is sucking up vehicles, buildings and trees. Arial camera views from a helicopter are perfect for viewing how ever, "business as usual" a member of congress has decided that he needs to spend more of the tax payers money to fly down and see for him self.

Perhaps he plans to use all his hot air to reinflate the salt dome that is collapsing.

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Leon
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instead of determining the problem, (Gas and Oil industry) tax their profits... How about allowing them to freakin DRILL!!!! God, I hate our government! Vote all the asses out!!!!

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evodawg

"evodawg" wrote

We should start with the "asses" in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which has effectively shut down exploration based on lawsuits filed by hysterical, psuedo-environmentalist.

You can't get more "environmentally conscious" than most European countries on the North Sea, and they somehow manage to both drill, and appease their "environmentalist" in a manner that suits everyone.

There are far too many close minded in this country.

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Swingman

Drill where? The only undrilled place in the US with proven reserve is the Strategic Oil Reserve, which is there in case of a survival-of-the-nation need such as WWII. Drilling there in the absence of such need (and keeping oil prices down for another few years is not such a need) is not a solution to any problem.

The solution, which will take decades to implement, is to QUIT USING OIL. The utility industry had a _good_ start on it in the '60s, then the environmental whackos shut that down. The Navy the same but Congress was more interested in cutting purchase costs than life-cycle costs so that ended.

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J. Clarke

sits on many, many years of salt excavation. I'm not sure how much of the town is sitting on top of excavated salt, but...I think about it every time I spend some leisure time there.

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think Lew has visited there. Isn't it nice?

Reply to
Robatoy

Oh do I agree with that.

You saw that report to. Trying to remember where I heard this. Could it been Fox News?

Understatement of the year!

Reply to
evodawg

For starters, Colorado, The Gulf of Mexico the California coast line.

The only undrilled place in the US with proven reserve is

Oil can still be had from where we have drilled. The problem is that it is now unlawful to continue drilling/exploring there. The only reason we use OPEC is because their oil is easier to obtain.

Reply to
Leon

Been there, they even build a few boats there.

Visitng those little shore side towns in Ontario is like taking a step back in time.

When I visited, wqas reminded of the late 40's, early 50's in the states.

Most enjoyable.

Lew

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Lew Hodgett

If a way can be found to clean up coal, we will have gone a long way toward solving the energy problem.

Lew

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Lew Hodgett

There's ANWR, an area the size of SC where they would create an oil field the size of NYC's Central Park and contains billions of barrels of oil. There's the Gulf Coastline, not drilling there is not going to prevent environmental risks, since Cuba is beginning drilling on their side. Offshore west coast. Develop the oil shale/sands in CO, WY, Dakotas. Additional fields in West Texas and Eastern New Mexico that were not economically viable at $30 a barrel oil but now seem cheap at $125 oil.

Here's a quote from a decade old report: "During the 1970's and 80's, exploration effort focused on finding billion-barrel fields -- fields of less than several hundred million barrels were considered uneconomic at anything less than the inflated prices of the early 1980's. Only a few fields were discovered that fulfilled the apparent size requirements. However, today, accumulations as small as 50 million barrels are considered to be of economic interest."

Reply to
Lee K

Uh huh, they're going to solve the world's energy problems with an area the size of a rich guy's back yard. How long will "billions of barrels" last?

In what "gulf" do you believe Cuba to be located? If you mean the Gulf of Mexico, when did they _stop_ drilling there?

How much oil is there that has not already been tapped?

This is not an issue of "drilling". Find out what it costs to extract oil from oil shale and you'll find that it's not economically feasible at this time.

What's preventing them from being used?

Yeah, but how long is 50 million barrels going to last? The message here is that we're scraping the bottom of the barrel, not that we're going to solve the problem with more diligent scraping.

Reply to
J. Clarke

Cite, please.

Reply to
Robatoy

Cite, please.

ROTFLMAO

Reply to
Leon

sink hole" There's NOTHING behind it. If there was something behind it, the hole would not keep sinking.

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Edwin Pawlowski

Reply to
J. Clarke

I have it on good authority that there have been black helicopters hovering near by before all this started.

Reply to
Leon

Well, as an outside guess (since I didn't ask, I'm not going to google oil consumption statistics), I'd say a darn sight longer than 0 barrels of oil which is what we are getting from there now. Kind of like the original argument against drilling in ANWR about 10 years ago when the liberal senator made the comment that it would be 10 years before anything would come from drilling there. Guess what? It's 10 years later and we've now got NOTHING because of doofus arguments like that.

To be more precise, China is drilling off the coast of Cuba.

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No, the argument here is that small pockets of oil are economically feasible to develop now.

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Mark & Juanita

A contra-cite, not the one you are looking for, but here is the topic form another view. This is about 7 months old, but it claims profitability at $30 a barrel, using shale available in almost unlimited quantities here in the USA.

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one off, the good folks of CA are now processing their "oil sand" as fast as they can to sell. Technologies improve, methodologies improve, and with the upswing in oil prices the impetus to find the substitutes we need for foreign crude has been set in motion.

Finally.

Robert

Reply to
nailshooter41

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote

Could it be that Leon has secretly completed his one-of-each Festool collection and the suckage is so hard that ... hmmmm?

Reply to
Swingman

Or else it's just a bottomless pit that's mirroring the bottomless pit of tool money that Leon seems to have. If I ever meet the guy, I'm gonna make sure he buys the food and beer.

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Upscale

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