It's a quote from the Simpsons' TV show... Mr. Burns talking to Homer about
something or other.
Sorry. I have no idea why I said that particular thing.
A jib is a small triangular sail that's suspended ahead of the foremast on a
big sailing ship, incidentally, I think.
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan < firstname.lastname@example.org>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
Yep, live in AZ, we just changed time from Pacific Daylight time to
Mountain Standard time. One of the most civil things AZ after having
moved here from TX -- no messing with the clocks-- mechanical,
electronic, or biological. I love it.
Of course, some the radio programs switch times, but that's no big
I get up a little before first light, regardless of what the clocks
The rest of the day is divided according to:
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
I remember those croquet games and barbeques after getting off an afternoon
shift up in Alaska.
Whining aside, even Alaska goes daylight so as not to change the time
difference between itself and businesses in other states which do.
Futility in what? What exactly are you unable to do?
For more info on Daylight Saving Time (not SAVINGS!) see:
During the Arab-Israeli War in October 1973, Middle East members of
OPEC issued an embargo against the sale of crude oil to Israel's
Western allies. In the United States, gasoline became scarce and
prices jumped 40 percent, crimping the American economy. Following the
1973 Arab Oil Embargo, Congress put most of the nation on extended
Daylight Saving Time for two years in hopes of saving additional
energy. This experiment worked, but Congress did not continue the
experiment in 1975 because of opposition -- mostly from the farming
In 1974, Daylight Saving Time lasted ten months and lasted for eight
months in 1975, rather than the normal six months (then, May to
October). The U.S. Department of Transportation -- which has
jurisdiction over Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. -- studied the
results of the experiment. It concluded:
Daylight Saving Time saves energy. Based on consumption figures for
1974 and 1975, The Department of Transportation says observing
Daylight Saving Time in March and April saved the equivalent in energy
of 10,000 barrels of oil each day -- a total of 600,000 barrels in
each of those two years.
Daylight Saving Time saves lives and prevents traffic injuries. The
earlier Daylight Saving Time allowed more people to travel home from
work and school in daylight, which is much safer than darkness. And
except for the months of November through February, Daylight Saving
Time does not increase the morning hazard for those going to school
Daylight Saving Time prevents crime. Because people get home from work
and school and complete more errands and chores in daylight, Daylight
Saving Time also seems to reduce people's exposure to various crimes,
which are more common in darkness than in light.
The Department of Transportation estimated that 50 lives were saved
and about 2,000 injuries were prevented in March and April of the
study years. The department also estimated that $28 million was saved
in traffic accident costs.
Fair enough. I don't care one way or the other about which time we use, but I'd
damned sure like it to remain the same. The nonsense of changing clocks twice a
year can be readily eliminated by using DT all the time.
If farmers still object, hey, what the hell. As things are going, there will be
only 17 or so commercial farmers left in the U.S. in a few years. Not a big
"Ain't no man can avoid being born average, but there ain't no man got to be
common." Satchel Paige
Lots of farmers in Indiana object. The Indiana Farm Bureau says that DST would
create a hardship for dairy farms, in that cows need to be milked at the same
time every day -- as if cows can tell time.
The Farm Bureau also objects that the hours kept by stores serving farmers
would make it difficult for farmers to get there before the stores close,
after a day in the fields -- as if a business wouldn't adapt its hours to
serve its customers.
There are a lot of valid reasons to object to DST, but they don't include
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
I only meant that in the sense that I will just be changing everything back
in 6 months anyhow. Kind of a joke, you know?
I understand why we do it and I don't disagree with it, it is just one more
chore that needs to be done.
This is one honkin' long thread. A good portion of us lost the hour we
gained last Sunday, and then some.
DST was Ben Franklin's idea. You can all get even by cleansing your wallets
of all those bills with his picture on them..... you can mail them to me,
I'll take care of 'em.
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