OT Antivirus software

May 25, 2005 116 Replies

I second that recommendation. Great program, simple to install, configure, use and, most importantly, it works!

Free for home use and VERY reasonable for networks. I bought a ten license network pack for $250 which includes updates and viruse definitions for TWO years. Figures out to $12.50/yr per machine. Compare that to even the best rebate offer Symantec offers.

Try the free version - fully functional - and see what you think.

Others have recommended AVG. Take a look at and do a search for "Norton" and "Symantec" Very eye-opening -- the comments from readers will list various alternatives to those two products.

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

But up comes the old argument. If there were a billion people using Unix, Linux etc, the viruses and spams would simply start up over there.

I don't know of a single 9 year old kernel (linux, freebsd, openbsd, aix, solaris, etc) that doesn't have security holes. These can be minimized by ACLs, firewalls and other means, but they still have security holes.

Ah, the dark side... :)

I remember the first time I had to deal w/ non-memory-mapped i/o and segmented addresses...I'm still not over it some 20+ years later. :)

Number of seconds crossing some bit boundary maybe? Dunno, netcraft has a "how long has this site been up" with a link that talks about the bug, maybe it'll explain it there.

Sounds like we're in similar worlds. My home systems include Sparcs from Sparc10 through Ultra60s, an SGI Indy, an SGI O2, a Dec Alpha (running FreeBSD this month), couple of linux boxes, the 2 macs, and a laptop that can boot into Windows if it has to. Work is mostly Solaris and Linux, and the box I'm on right now is Ubuntu Linux which is a nice debian-ish distro with better packages.

Beats working, y'know?

Yes from my memory as well, hence the /9 I think?

Yes, the device and library structures, along with of course the syntax, was very unix-ish. Pretty good for early 80's on an 8-bit micro.

Not surprising. I should mention that the Linux box in question is running 3 websites with thousands of hits a day, and a monitoring application that watches our ecommerce sites, sends notifications, and so on - so it's a busy little box, not just off in a corner building uptime. (Not implying your clients' box is like that, not my point).

Yup, it sure would. But, if it's located in the right place, network-wise, the risk is minimized.

AAAAAAAAAARGH! Someone mentioned UCSD Pascal!

Please, please don't do that. Just for that - FORTAN 77!!!!

Uptime is calculated from "jiffies", time slices of the kernel. Usually you have 100 jiffies in a second (the HZ constant in the kernel include files). 24*60*60*100*497=4294080000, which is bigger than 2^32=4294967295, so the rollover occurs after 496 days, 2 hours, 27 minutes, 52 seconds and 95 extra jiffies...

Like what? I have yet to find something I can't do.

*nix and Mac have this, of course. Some of 'em are even free, with paid support if you feel the need.

I'm not seeing a difference yet.

If I choose to use Linux on commodity hardware, it works every time as well.

What specific need have you been unable to find an app for? The "There aren't any apps" argument was sort-of valid 5 years ago, but today? Not hardly.

Every Apple tower system made in recent memory (last to generations at least) has been standard hardware for user-replacable stuff. Memory, cards, disk, and so on. Maybe you haven't looked real close?

I have never heard anyone else complain that Apple's UI is difficult to use.

Well, if you say so. Glad you're happy; you just don't know what you're missing.

Are you open to suggestions?

bring something to kill"

"Bad news & good news, Kid. Bad news is that you're going to be sacrificed at dawn. Good news is that I know how to get you out of it..."

You're confusing "popularity" with "vulnerability".

Small world. I may have done some hardware design work on those VMEbus boards (mostly fixing the original designer's blunders). I still make my living in the VME market.

Tom

multics. i worked on it for many years. certified to b2. another os/hardware platform from the same company was certified at a2.

there has never been a security hole used against stratus computers.

just because you don't know of one doesn't mean there isn't one.

the longest one i personally encountered was one running a steel plant. if the computer stopped, the plant had big problems because the line had to be restarted, which involved having to remelt a lot of steel because it had cooled too much.

another one was a rail road who had brick walled off one of our computers into a room that had no other door. it was 3 years before they even found it by tracing cables.

Ah. Thanks for the concise explaination. Seemed like some "magic number" kind of a rollover, glad to know it makes sense.

Yup, I had a Sparc 2 get walled into a non-room in a similar manner. It just continued to do it's job, and I put a sign on the wall with a reference to Edgar Allen Poe, a cask of amantillado, and the server in question, so whoever took my place would have a hint where it was. I should touch base with the current crew & see if they're still using it...

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