Over the last number of years the current capacity of a simple AA or a
simple 9 volt battery has increased significantly - particularly in
the rechargeable versions I remember 80mah 9 volt ni-cads. 350mah Nimh
are now pretty standard, with Lithiums going over 600mah
The basic volt/amp sizes have barely changed in since the invention off
the dry cell.
Simple physics/chemistry. Heck, even electric cars are basically a
zillion AAs tied together.
The size of a 1.5volt dry cell at a certain amperage has remained the
same for a century, no matter the material inside.
That can't be said of many other technologies over the past 100 years.
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On 6/13/14, 11:55 PM, email@example.com wrote:
I'll give you that. But I just don't see a logarithmic scale happening
here, like you see in other technologies.
If the chemistry of the dry cell was as advancing as say, the speed of
microprocessors, we'd have drills that you only charged once a year. :-)
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 00:55:58 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I'm thinking the possibility of transmitted power, such as
electromagnet beamed power. Small receiver on a drill and off you go.
Of course, some advances need to be done, but what I'm talking about
already exists in it's early stages.
And if you hit something they wouldn't go through, they'd either snap
your wrist like a nono-toothpick or throw youhalfway to mars with
"if automobiles had advanced as quickly as computers, by 2000 we'd
have been driving at twice the speed of light while riding on the
head of a pin - in 1990 that would have been the speed of sound on a
I think I am going in a different direction for a bit. I have an
ancient Makita 14.4 ni cad (which I thought was working well for me,
but reading this makes me realize how clueless I am) that will pull
the balls of a rhino. I spent $329 for it about << 9 >> years ago.
While I have killed a few batteries, the smart charger does well with
itself, and the helical cut bronze gears in the drill make it solid as
the day I bought it. The chuck is an American made Jacobs with
carbide liners and it will still grip a 1/16" to 1/2" with the same
It has drilled thousands of holes, and driven many times that of
screws. But the drill is large and weighs a bunch. Still, I will be
undone if anything happens to it as it is my cabinet hanging monster.
It still works fine. But I am taking a look at this tool set for the
My electrician uses it for all kinds of drilling, screw driving, and
has even use it with a wire brush to clean up fixtures. He uses the
hell out of both the drill and the driver every single day. He is on
his third set. According to him, they last about 2 1/2 to 3 years,
and then he simply tosses them. I have never had any of my DeWalt or
Hitachi drills last longer than that.
I have several entry door replacements coming up, and I will see if it
will bore a hole in a 1 3/4 door. If it will, I am in. I have to
have a really light touch with the rhino killer when running in all
the door hinge screws, and there will be a few hundred of them if I
get all the work I have bid.
Do you think Harbor Freight might be on to something?
The above would be a classic HF item.
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On Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:30:50 PM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
ch of accountants/investors/efficiency engineers that are working to maximi
ze the dollar from manufacturing widgets.
Testify! Applied to pretty much everything these days, I have found myself
less and less concerned with branding.
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:01:26 PM UTC-5, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Absolutely. I have commented over the years that I have steadily watched t
he quality of HF tools go up and the quality of higher priced, badged tools
go down. And with HF's in store exchange guarantee, it is hard to beat th
em, too. The only problem I have with HF is that some of their tools are r
eally pretty good and the service life to price is an excellent ratio. But
some of their tools just aren't that good. But they are expanding so fast
and improving so much they just might make a credible name for themselves
across the board one day.
Yep, I feel the same way. It is an interesting business model. Open up a
bunch of stores. Sell tools at a super discounted price and expand quickly.
Essentially open up a bunch of stores selling crap. Then...... , once you
have people coming into the stores, start to improve the quality of the
tools. Which is the exact reversal of other tool company's approach.
I was looking at some of the reviews recently of some of their power tools.
Years ago, there were complaints about a tool was just fine except for one
part. Then the complaints stopped. Apparently, they fixed that one part.
I think that Harbor Freight deal with their customer base as one big
research and development lab. Make a tool cheap and see what the people
say. Then order an improvement based on the complaints. Over time, the
I am not sure I approve of that model. But as a business-customer service
model. It is probably better than trading on an old reputation for quality
while making crappier and crappier tools. Like you say Robert, more and
more tools are meeting somewhere in the middle.
As far as cordless tools are concerned, most people I have talked to have
indicated that they are buying new tools based on the batteries they now
have. Makes sense the the big companies sell packages of tools and
batteries to get you in the door. After that, you don't want to make an
investment in new batteries and chargers. So you buy that brand for other
I have been following this discussion and went and looked at the Ryobi
tools. They have a number of 40 volt tools for working in the yard.
Including lawnmowers and a chain saw. One lawnmower carried two batteries.
So when one battery runs out, you just swap them and finish the job. And an
eclectic chainsaw for landscaping or the odd emergency, that is perfect.
Obviously can't do a lot of cutting, but for small jobs, just perfect.
I haven't made the investment in a lot of cordless tools. But with the
cheaper versions of these tools getting better and better and the Lithium
ion batteries becoming so prevalent, I may not be able to hold off much
Black & Decker had an interesting drill concept a short time ago. I
bought one of their interchangable drills last year, and thought the idea
was pretty good. It had a module that was driven by a single motor, so
if you wanted to change from drill to driver, you popped off the drill
module and popped on the driver module. It seemed to work alright, but I
took it back because the motor/gears sounded like it was grinding rocks.
I never did try the impact driver module, based on the gear noises I knew
I was taking the thing back and getting something else.
I think someone here mentioned it and was impressed with the demo unit he
You can't go by brand names any more. It all depends on where the giant
holding company decides to shift that brand today.
While I won't seek out B&D, if someone gives a good review I'm willing to
listen. Sometimes even a cost-conscious brand (i.e. cheap) puts out a
good tool once in a while.
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