I just got a file, supposedly bounced back to me as an email I sent that had a
There was an attachment in the name of the company bouncing it.
I never heard of the company.
I am not about to open that attachment.
"For NASA, space is still a high priority." Dan Quayle
Any returned email daemon these days is most likely a virus or Trojan horse.
I've been getting several returned emails also - just delete them and make
sure your AV program is running and up to date.
I have been getting e-mails from SBC Yahoo indicating that some one has
tried to send me an e-mail with a virus attached. They supposedly caught
the e-mail and request that I ask the sender to resend. Oddly the warning
always e-mail has a 25k attachment. I delete'em.
On 29 Apr 2004 13:45:35 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Charlie Self)
depends on the virus checker and the attachment. if it's a locked zip
file, no. if the attachment is html referencing something like a
trojan or a buffer overrun exploit on some website somewhere the virus
scanner won't get it either.
as can most virus scanners. however, if the zip file is password
protected the scan will fail. some viruses have been circulated lately
inside of locked zip files, with the password attached in a readable
text file. it's a bit of that social engineering... get the user to
run the virus code.
Many, probably even most, ISP's either do not scan incoming mail or
they make it voluntary, which means many people either don't use it
or don't know it's available (Charlie's ISP is AOL, I have no idea what
their policy is). Your ISP is Earthlink, their scan is voluntary.
Regretably, virtually no ISPs scan outgoing mail, which would be
far more useful.
On 29 Apr 2004 12:43:27 GMT, email@example.com (Charlie Self)
Common. Is the filesize around 41.8Kb give or take? Easy to spot.
I've advised people for dcades on this sort of thing. Look for them
even from "friends' who can inadvertently send one. Make sure there
is reference to the file, size and name and intent, in the body of the
email, or chuck it. You can reply to a friend first to enquire before
deleting out of hand.
Delete from your trash folder as well! There are programs to *really*
delete files, but you have to have some fair experience with computers
to use them effectively, knowing where and how some files are stored.
There is a new virus circulating now called "WIN32/Bagle" that I got our company
system yesterday. The attachment is s script file that had a ".hta" extension.
McAfee came out with an update for their virus software to catch it yesterday as
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
Charlie what you got is a virus that came via someone who has an
infected PC. They have your email address and when they got infected,
the virus mined their email list to send the virus to other users.
That's how the viruses are propagated. The virus writer then hopes you
open the attachment and get infected. Especially if you use outlook,
which is easily infected. Then your email list is mined and everyone you
know gets an email just like you did.
And so it goes...so don't open the attachement, OR ANY ATTACHMENT unless
it's from someone you know and even then, run updated virus protection
if you're using a PC.
If you're on a Mac, it matters not. No known viruses in the wild these
days, only one known "proof of concept" virus showing how to infect a
Mac via an mp3 file.
"The measure of a man is what he will do
Not that I am defending Outlook, but if you open an virus attachment using
any e-mail client, or even another program in some instances, you are likely
to get infected.
A virus writer attempts to maximize impact by writing for the most
ubiquitous platform, that pretty well excludes Mac's from the biggest
infestations, but any OS can be subject to security problems/ viruses and
that is why there is anti-virus software available for Mac's as well.
Just a little 'anti-spin' counterforce .02
True, but the problem with Lookout and Lookout Exploit is that there are
viruses written that will allow themselves to be executed just by
downloading the message that they are delivered in thanks to security holes
in the OS and/or the mail client. Granted, staying current on your Windows
Updates will help out in that regard.
Also, don't be lulled into the false sense of security that if you merely
"preview pane" an e-mail that you are safe. "Preview pane"ing an e-mail, at
least in Outlook Express or Outlook is pretty much the equivalent of opening
the e-mail by double clicking on it. While _most_ virii require you to open
the attachment for them to perform their infection routine, spammers will
often use a bit of code embedded in HTML that will phone home to confirm a
live e-mail address...and you all know where that will lead.
Charlie, as for the specific worm in question, without knowing more details
(and it's really all academic at this point), it's hard to tell which one
you received. There are four new variants on the loose that have been given
"medium risk" status, meaning they're spreading in the wild. Should be an
interesting summer for the network administrators.
Not "but's" ... it _can_ be written and desiminated to happen as stated
That's an Active x variant that a patch was available for as late as October
... if you haven't applied that, you deserve what you get. You also have to
turn on and permit active x controls to run in html e-mail, and that's not
been default for a few years.
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