Milk will someday be sold in the US in 1-liter, 2-liter, and 3.75-liter containers, probably within
the next ten years or so -- but people will still be calling them quart, half-gallon, and gallon for
another couple of generations.
Learning your SS number to get your grades is harder than learning metric,
I learned metric in grade school. It is not hard at all.
It is more likely that those that learned Imperial and fractions first
have a much easier time learning metric than those that learned metric
first and later tried to learn the Imperial and working with fractions.
As I have stated earlier, I use both in my shop because my Festool tools
use metric and I design for imperial measurements. Can those that learned
metric first do that ?
So reading the answers here no one has proven that metric is better so much
as simply easier to some degree.
Oddly those that think metric is better tend to work with only one
resolution vs multiple resolutions on a given project. I suppose that is
because working with multiples of 10 is more confusing when you have to
start using decimal points and or as I have also stated the sounds of each
resolution differ slightly compared to Imperial so to cut down on the
possibility of verbal miscommunication only one resolution is commonly
That's because it isn't. Floating around somewhere is a Metric vs Imperial
comparison, where it says one system is better because of some reason, then
not long after says the other system is better because of the same reason.
A quick Google didn't return anything like it, and it wasn't on the
repairfaq.org humor page. (Don't go there if you don't have some time to
kill... you'll be busy reading jokes for an hour or better.)
What is "better" is what you know. 320 million of us leaned inches and
expect the other 6.5 billion people to adapt to us.
Just as most of us speak English and want others to do so rather than us
learn Urdu or Swahili.
What is also easier is having an open mind and learning how to use other
methods compatible with the rest of the world.
On 08/07/2016 12:09 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
A) Yes, that's true and for everyday use, it's a good-enough reason.
B) No (at least I) don't expect them to adapt to us, I just don't want
them (or some DC bureaucrat) forcing _us_ (as in US) to switch things
that don't need to be switched just for the sake of it.
Wasn't going to but what the heck, having come this far... :)
C) It's been the fortunate position of US by dint of its combination of
resources plus the economic and governing systems to build a sufficiency
that that is so (others having to use our system, languages, etc.).
Getting to that point collectively to be able to create
a similar condition was a prime reason for the EU which then created
for the most part the switch in industrial US.
D) Again, "learning how to use other methods" isn't the issue; I don't
think there's anybody who's responded in the (apparently now
interminable :) ) thread who doesn't "know how"; it's that for much use
and particularly that of everyday use there really is no clear advantage
in changing and (as I've also noted earlier) the denizens here are
mostly old fogeys and we see no reason to switch just for the sake of
switching. We don't export the weather, the roads are where they've
always been, "a mile a minute" is _far_ more convenient that whatever it
works out to in kpm, etc., etc., etc., ... OTOH, US manufacturing
switched decades ago for all that export so what has been important
I'm not an old fogey, still much to young for that. I'm rather open
minded when it comes to measurement systems, with one caveat: Pick one
and use it! If it's metric, tell me and I'll adjust. If it's Imperial,
tell me and I'll adjust. Don't pretend it's both, the difference
between a 2" hole and a 50mm hole is a 2" item will fit snugly in the 2"
hole and not at all in the 50mm hole.
I use metric quite a bit when model railroading, as it's convenient.
Metric is good at measuring small things. I use Imperial when
woodworking, Imperial is good at measuring average size things. When it
comes to huge things, it's a tossup, but Metric would probably win out.
It supports things like Gm (Gigameters) or even Ym (Yottameters) if you
don't want to use light years. (I know those are the prefixes for
storage, and storage stole them from Metric so I think they're right.)
If they had based the meter off something closer to the foot, like a
cubit or something, they might have wound up with a system that was good
at measuring small things (the centimeter would probably be the unit of
choice), average size things (meters), and big things (Mm).
Granted, one sees stuff like that a lot on internet stores...I had a
heckuva time figuring out the thread diameter/pitch when trying to order
a replacement sight glass for a little HF air compressor. Turns out it
appears the threads in the casting are 3/4" NPT because a standard pipe
plug will not leak but I've tried four different sight glasses and not a
one will seat tightly enough to not leak. Hence, I drilled/tapped a
3/4" plug with a 1/8" NPT offset where the bottom is at the mid-point
and now have a level check! :)
But the key there is mostly _you're_ choosing which to use for specific
purposes; the argument (at least mine) against is mandated changing of
"ordinary" day-to-day-living things just for the sake of doing so. I
have no quarrel against what anybody chooses to use; I do resent the
thought of US bureaucrats in DC using threats of cutting of federal
hiway dollars to states to force compliance in change road signs, for
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I'm fairly sure most people in this newsgroup do, tho.
And the point is? I can easily switch between metric and
imperial (and between imperial and US units for that matter,
just like I switch from English english to US english).
There is no particular advantage to using metric (which is
Leon's point). If something is in imperial units, I use
imperial; if it's in metric, I use metric. I see no reason
to convert one to the other (unless directly comparing two
things in different units).
Good on you John!
Concerning your comment above about you being able to switch from
English english and US English. And I am poking fun here with this
The English english words, bird and the name Mark.
When we hear the English english version of both words we hear "bud" and
"Mahk". Do you guys use the letter "r" with in a word? ;~)
Y'all may now ask me a question about how we pronounce words in Texas. LOL
And despite their much loved use of the metric system, they continue to
weigh themselves in "stones" and tell time in "fortnights".
How much do ya weight mate?, Why fourteen stone, when I weighed a
Nothing consistent about the POME's ..
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