I think that this issue is not about whether one can afford to buy
petrol. That's too naive and self-centered for me. I think it is about
what our country can afford; how many sons and husbands we can afford
to squander in oil wars, for example.
Easy, there, big fella. Who said anything about banning RV's!? The only
thing I did was (obviously) strike a nerve. It's your RV and it's your
war, and if you are enjoying them, what else matters?
Seriously, I would never ban RV's or SUV's or other ridiculous gas
guzzlers. I would simply tax fuel according to consumption. I would pay
about $.25 with my Prius, more for my Avalon. You would pay about $500
per gallon for your RV. The folks in the middle with their SUV's would
pay a middle price -- $400 per gallon, let's say. More taxes? Yes, to
pay for your war. Besides, these would be voluntary taxes. No one would
have to pay them if they didn't want to!
Ah, the liberal guilt/blame game. If there be blame to lay, it is at
the feet of liberal politicians who have made us dependent on foreign
oil by banning the use of our own resources. If you voted them in, the
blame is also yours.
I am curious--how many "sons and husbands" do you believe have been
"squandered in oil wars"? And how does that compare to the number
"squandered in the War Between the States" or the number "Squandered
defeating the Axis" or the number "squandered due to drunk drivers"?
Don't anybody help him please.
Hear, hear. I had plans, once upon a time, to get an old
semitrailer or bus and make it into a mobile home to travel in
leisure. No more. The investment in the rig alone will keep me
in hotels for years. Never mind the inconvenience driving some
rig like that, finding parking for it, getting hassled by cops
and council staff and enraged camp-ground owners who feel
you're ripping them off by not staying in their camp ground
(You laugh? Recently really happened in these parts: camp
ground owners demonstrating against the council because camper
van owners were staying in a municipal carpark overnight).
Then you'd probably want to tow a small car with the rig,
so you can actually get around to what you want to look at..
Be much easier to keep the luxury estate I've got and stay in
hotels. The interest on the capital I don't spend will probably
pay for my petrol :-P
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I recall those predictions in the 70's also. I think the Toyota Tundra had
a lot to do with the F150's short falls also.
Ford did not stop selling cars when the F150 was on top.
All the Detroit woes are from piss poor contracts with the Unions through
out the last several decades. Toyota is not hurting nearly as bad and I
keep seeing more and more Toyota trucks and SUV's all the time. BTY I just
filled my Tundra with the 5.7 L engine, and got 15.4 MPG in strictly city
Now I will grant you that there were far too many people driving large
vehicles that they should not have been driving in the first place.
Watching the news a few nights ago a young guy in his early 30's was
troubled because his 2002 Explorer cost him $80 every 3 days to fill up.
Trade value was $3500 which was 1/2 KBB. He owes $8500.
There is more of a ptoblem with his situation than rising fuel costs.
1. He apparently had a 7+ year loan.
2. He drives at least 1500 miles per month and probably has 108,000 miles
on the vehicle.
3. No one was riding with him to work.
He did not do the math in the first place. Even at $40 to fill up every 3
days he was driving too much vehicle for his needs.
That's exactly why I have a Prius and an F250. The Prius is my daily
vehicle, while the F250 is the "go get something big" vehicle. I'll put
two or three tanks of gas in my Prius before I fill up the F250.
The math said the Prius would pay for itself in fuel savings over my 26
mpg Buick in about 10 years at $2.78 a gallon.
Obligatory woodworking content: The F250 contains the material for my
latest project: Replacing the old decking around the pool with
composite. Almost ready to begin installation. :-)
If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
My guess is by the time you factor in depreciation, insurance, fuel,
repairs and license costs, you are looking $0.75/mile, based on 10,000
Is ownership of that F250 worth $7,500/year this year and probably
more next year?
Really? I knew in the back of my mind that my Nissan Titan had to go.
It was a wonderful truck, one of the most comfortable vehicles I've
ever driven. But it was killing people in Oil War II. Still, I kept
pushing that to the back of my mind. I "needed it to haul lumber," or
so I told myself.
One day, while driving it empty (as was usually the case) I was
following a Home Depot "$19 for one hour" truck. That did it. I traded
it for a Prius the next day. (Pickups were still in high demand, and
the Titan was cherry; CarMax gave me a better-than-retail trade-in.)
I just got a load of synthetic decking from a professional supplier who
will deliver free _if_ you let them pick the day and time of delivery
for maximum efficiency. Not everyone can do that, of course, but I had
my load within 36 hours of ordering it.
There are certainly a lot of people who have a legitimate need for a
light truck -- farmers, contractors, &c, but that number is _far_ lower
than the number of people who _own_ light trucks.
On 06 Jun 2008 18:45:24 GMT, Puckdropper
The "two garbage can sized bed?" Nothin' like a Ford Explorer
SporTrac or H2 SUT to haul a REAL load! <G>
At the bike shop, we outfitted a 2005 Prius with a Yakima roof rack
for a DirecTV installer!
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