Revisionism on your part ...here's the quote:
"Trying to get a rational--non-Google, in other words--NG set up. AOHell is
no help. I'm hoping the above EarthLink info will work."
Now, Charlie never really answered my point blank question about what ISP he
was using, but you assumed that he did, that he was using peoplePC, and you
jumped in based on your assumption.
You may well have just gotten lucky this time, but pay attention to the
voice of experience when I tell you it is prudent to not ever assume
_anything_ when trouble shooting network problems.
That said, and since Charlie has been bitching about, and has had trouble
with, AOL for a long time, I hope you're right ... here's hoping he finally
did get off that sour tit and onto to something like EarthLink/et al.
Oh stop, how are direct quotes revisionism?
his original post was
That was all. Then he followed up with
Getting lucky has nothing to do with it. He asked what PeoplePCs news
server was, and I, in my infinite wisdom answered his plea; then you
had to go and bamboozle him with science ;-)
How about we just leave it at I was right and you were wrong :)
Not yet. I have both PeoplePC and AOL on this computer. I use them
alternately to try to get PeoplePC up where it can totally replace AOL,
at least for MY use. My wife likes it, so it will hang around. At the
moment, I don't have a google set up on PipplePC to get to this NG, so
I'm using the AOL google deal, which anyway is easier to read.
Maybe in a week or so, if I don't have too much work to do, I'll get it
all straightened out.
I'm jumping in late. I forgot where you're located, Charlie, but I am
using Verizon DSL (hoping fios will get to us soon). I don't use AOL, but
the other grandfather of my grandchildren (SIL's dad) down the road does
without a problem.
In addition, since Verizon's newsgroups are pretty good, and free, any
newsreader will do fine. I use Xnews.
More info available.
Unfortunately, I get the same response from Verizon every time I ask:
it will be about 6 months before we get DSL to your area. I got that
response when we got back from WV 2 years ago, I got it 18 months ago,
I got it 16 months ago, I got it 10 months ago, I got it 7 months ago,
I got it 5 months ago, and I got it yesterday.
I tend to hope that Charter's cable beats them here.
Maybe you have to organize the neighbors into requesting it.
I have no experience with any ccable system. Started with Compuserve in my
Apple //e days, then went verizon dial-up, then DSL. Now at nominal 3 MB
down. Waiting for fios ...
What neighbors? Actually, we now have the population density, and DSL
will eventually get here, but my neighbors generally do not give a
rat's tuchus about computers. Most have satellite TV, and that's as
much as they want. Lessee. I could get the guy who raises rodeo bulls
to...nah. He's about a half mile down the road. Across the road, we've
got a schoolteacher, but she never uses a computer outside the
classroom, except to mark report cards. Down the road is a guy who does
I don't know what, but also plays in a rock band...he'd never hear
As I said, eventually, but one of the lacks in the country is neighbors
who share your interests.
Once you are connected to peoplePC you can just start Internet Explorer
and type http://groups.google.com/group/rec.woodworking in the address
bar. Nothing to setup. I'm not familar how AOL does things to be
honest. What does AOL do that you can't do with peoplePC at the moment?
My wife works for peoplePC so just curious.
AOL is irrelevant because it forces you to use google groups, which is
total shit when it comes to newsgroups. No filters. Incredibly clumsy.
PeoplePC, at the moment, is not working for me. I think I know what's
wrong, but it has nothing to do with getting into google groups. If
you'd read a bit earlier, you would understand that I moved into PPC to
allow me to eventually get rid of AOL, and that I dislike using google
Whatever Mr Snippy. You wrote 'I don't have a google set up on PipplePC
to get to this NG' which sure sounded like you were trying to access
Google Groups via peoplePC to me. I'm well aware that you were trying
to use OE/peoplePC seeing as I was the person who told you the correct
value to use for the news server.
I don't know about y'all but I don't come here for the wooddorking.
I come here for lessons in epistemology.
This was a pretty good one.
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
Had you not confused the issue by asking superfluous questions in the
first place things would have gone a lot smoother.
and that's the bit the really sticks in your craw isn't it. I was
right. Charlie asked a simple question and I answered it correctly
whereas you added nothing and took the whole thread on this bizarre
tangent. You didn't answer Charlies question nor did you answer mine,
seems to be a pattern.
They're looking for the name or address of the news server PeoplePC
provides. You may need to call/email their tech support guys to
find out what it is, but you could also try
since both are popular choices for names for news servers.
A Google search shows it to be:
but I also found this:
"I did an NSLOOKUP on news.peoplepc.com and it came back as being an
alias for news.east.earthlink.net. So apparently they do support a news
server via Earthlink. But it may require a logon."
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