Of course Stuart, never in your life have you shown off a new tool to
a friend. Besides that, most of us are using these tools alone in a
workshop. There's really not much showing off.
And by saying that, you've completely missed the point of what many of
us are trying to tell you. That's the fact that you can't do the same
job with your Trend or DeWalt. When you add up the dust collection,
the ease of use and the added capability, those other tools don't
I know what you naysayers are really thinking. You're afraid that if
you go to one of the free demo days that Festool dealers put on,
you'll like a Festool so much you'll end up buying it. Admit it guys.
You're afraid of joining the club and being razzed for spending so
It's either that or we current Festool owners are so embarrassed by
our spending so much money that we want to draw you guys in to so we
don't feel so bad. Is that it? You think we're a bunch of misery loves
company tool owners? :)
If you are a hobbyist, the price will look high unless you appreciate
quality and a tool that will last.
If you are a pro and or make a living with your tools you will find that
the price is reasonable.
Festool is one of a few manufacturers that has enough pride in what it
does to actually design and manufacture the product themselves.
Naturally they know what they are doing, know how to build a tool, and
that is going to cost more money than buying a "clone tool" made in China.
Where time is money, Festool delivers top quality results in less time.
Imagine cutting 200 "clean precision sized" mortises. Now imagine doing
them in less than an hour.
Imagine sanding with a belt sander. Now imagine sanding with a finish
sander that will sand as fast as a belt sander with no dust and little
noise by comparison.
Imagine building fine furniture and making your cuts with a circular
saw. Now imagine a circular saw the cuts as good as a cabinet table
saw, makes plunge cuts, puts a fine straight edge on a board faster than
a jointer, and contains 95% of the saw dust.
Imagine a shop vac. Now imagine a dust extractor that has a hepa
filter, so quiet that you cannot hear it running when working with a
connected power tool, and allows you to stack all of your power tools in
Imagine a cordless drill. Now imagine one that does not rattle and
clatter when you have reached the desired torque setting but simply
stops turning and sounds a tone to indicate that you have reached the
desired torque setting and will not continue until you release and pull
the trigger again, one that has a right angle, eccentric, quick change
chuck for drivers, and will continue to run if you drop it in a bucket
I witness this every time I use these tools.
Sounds like you could be supplementing your income by being a copy writer
for Festool. ;~)
One of my local associates, whom has a commercial shop, has a shelf unit
full of Festool in his shop. I recently saw him sell off some Dewalt
tools... Seems he found the same things you did...
LOL I should send that in to Festool!
On a serious note though I was never really aware of Festool, not on the
Then one day many years ago, 6 or 7, Robatoy showed me a link to the
German Festool site, all in German, that showed a video of a tool for
creating mortises. And at that time he was going on and on and on about
this Rotex, feminine product sounding name, sander.
When the Domino was introduced here, in English but not yet available, I
decided I was going to buy one. Ah but you need to use a vac with it
and my days of listening to the inexpensive shop vac's were over so I
bought the Festool CT22 dust extractor and the Domino assortment. I
dropped major money on those three items.
Damn, the vac worked much better than expected and it was quiet. These
tools are great and fast!
A year later came the Rotex sander, several months later small finish
sander. No more dust!
Christmas two years ago Swingman got the bug and was "bad sick" with
Festool need. He bought the CT22 dust extractor, T75 Track saw,
accessory kit, other tracks, Rotex sander and finish sander.
I tried his track saw and WOW. Four months later I added the Festool
TS75 track saw and an extra track.
Last Christmas I added the T15-3 Festool Drill.
Yes, I'd use my horizontal morticer, or benchtop morticer or if I had one,
a chain morticer. None of which cost as much as the Domino (well the chain
morticer would have to have been a used model, of course).
Don't have one, never needed one. Now a wide-belt sander or good drum
sander on the other hand ...
How about a card scraper, #80, #81 or #112? Or a PC 7336 6" right-angle ROS
with dust collection kit if you must use power?
These two thoughts don't go together.
But if I already have a jointer, cabinet saw, and a dust collector, why do I
Sure as hell aint worth the extra USD700 over a Dewalt 18V.
That's nice, but still you've given me no reason to purchase the festool
stuff. I haven't seen it in the pro cabinet shops that I frequent,
Go time yourself and cut 200 1/4" by 1" by 1" mortices with any of the
tools that would cost less than a Domino.
Then how long will it take to cut the 100 tenons to fit precicely with
I am not buying it just considering cutting the mortises.
Given enough time you can sand anything to conform with a block of wood
and sand paper.
If you are into that kind of thing and have plenty of time. I have the
older version of the PC 7336 right angle sander. I used it from 1989
until about 3 years ago. It was a very good sander. The Rotex was the
first right angle sander that I saw that was significantly better.
I use mine to cut sheets of plywood to finish sizes by myself. I use
mine to cut odd angle and taper cuts that are difficult at best on a TS.
It makes life easier.
Well I only paid about $350 more that a DeWalt. New mine was is only
$575. Not sure where you are getting your pricing.
But does did your DeWalt have the right angle attachment, eccentric and
quick drive change attachment?
Well Scott I am not trying to sell you on buying Festool, I simply
stated why I bought Festool and how it is a benefit to me.
As someone other than a hobbyist, I'll buy a tool any day that in ten
years will have cost you less than $5/month, and you're still good to go
for another ten, and more.
Festool's not for everyone ... until you experience what owning a
Festool can do for making you money, most simply won't "get it".
Hell, the Festool _dust collection_ ability alone has literally saved me
enough in _onsite dust control measures_ to easily pay for the rest of
my Festool aresenal five times over.
You bet I can justify owning Festool ... at twice the price if necessary.
When I first got the Rotek sander it threw me for a loop. I was
used to judging how much had been done by the sawdust. I had to keep
checking to be sure it was sanding because there wasn't any sawdust.
LOL I just got through mentioning that about the Festool detail sander.
I did not have as much trouble with the Rotex which I got first as it is
relative easy to see the progress on the work. Going to a finish sander
where you are not reshaping so to speak really concerned me.
AND THE PAPER! It seldom looks worn out, I had to learn to give it a
finger feel on a regular basis.
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