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LOL. We now have another new audio engineering term ... "funnies"?

Don't look now, but you just clearly stated that your "funnies" at higher frequencies", do indeed have an effect "within the audio band".

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Swingman
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*YOU* are making the claim.

Utter audiophoolisms. Look up "Fourier Transform" and "Nyquist limit".

You've listened to too many audiophools.

Wrong (worse than that). The world is not perfect but it doesn't matter. You can't hear it.

You're the one who needs to UNDERSTAND Nyquist. I deal with it every day.

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krw

I don't find them so. Some do, apparently. Pehaps it has to do with the DC itself?

I can't hear anything above the planer. The DC is just a woosh, by comparison. ;-)

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krw

Max

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Max

Gad! Someone finally mentioned "timber" in this thread. ;-)

Max

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Max

"Leon" wrote

Mine sounds like an F-16 just after lighting the afterburner.

Max

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Max

Give that man 30 Days In The Hole!

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and persistence alter all things. --Benjamin Franklin

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Larry Jaques

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> Your ignorance is showing. Key words: harmonics and timbre ... Use them to

Confirms my previous statement ... you're trolling, right?

You really don't believe that ... hell, it's so totally dead wrong that you can't possibly believe it with a straight face?

What you just clearly stated is that there is no cutoff in frequency response, above 22050Hz, on the 16bit/44.1kHz sampling rate of Redbook Audio CD??

And you supposedly "deal with Nyquist every day"??

I hope it's not with your day job, Bubba ... because if they're paying you all they're getting in return is unmitigated ignorance.

Here, learn something before they find out:

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Swingman

i have found most things in the industrial world that don't make much noise aren't doing much work. i think this especially applies to vacuums and blowers.

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Steve Barker

What are you running, Max? Or did you just get some clothespins and playing cards set up in the intake to stroke the impeller for that sound effect?

My Griz 1029 is a quiet, strong sucker; a real sweetheart.

-- Energy and persistence alter all things. --Benjamin Franklin

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Larry Jaques

Absolutely amazing exchange ... unbelievable really, that someone could actually reply in that manner and believe it!

If you're unfortunate enough to have been raised in the age of digital music, with the attendant noise, and decrease in dynamic range and frequency response of Redbook Audio, and the advent of the mp3, and you wish to get involved in music reproduction, it is the path of least resistance, and in your best interest, to ignore anything but the status quo.

After all, digital equipment is cheaper, much easier to maintain, requires little or no knowledge and/or basic understanding of underlying audio principles to use, and, despite the fact that almost everyone who has been exposed to the difference between digital and analog recording will agree that analog "sounds better"; those using digital as a preference continue to demand an increase in bit rates and sampling frequency (because of the inherent "Nyquist Limit" in digital sampling) to 24/96kHz to decrease noise, and increase both dynamic range and frequency response; because, when doing so, it suddenly begins to approach the fidelity of musical content recorded on analog equipment ... and, lo and behold, it "sounds better".

and you gotta laugh at the ridiculousness of folks railing against the concept that HFC (high frequency content) colors the sound of music within the human audible range, while immediately using psycho-acoustic properties like "masking", which relies upon HFC to work, as proof that it doesn't ... you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Audio today is much like the debate over climate change, with proponents from each camp railing against each other with a religious fervor. Mp3's now basically rule in the digital music world ... if you don't think that not a move in in the direction of mediocrity in the recording world, then there is no help for you.

Then there is another more disturbing and profound reason:

It's truly sad that when you've ruined your hearing, like manyt folks who have spent their formative years within the last 30, it is no damned wonder that, because you can't hear it, you continue to loudly proclaim/insist that no one else can.

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Swingman

Markem can surely give a better explanation than I but primarily mechanical resonances. Obviously these need to be controlled in-band but my understanding is that out of band resonances can have an effect in-band too.

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Stuart

Misspell it once, see it quoted back and repeat the same error.

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Stuart

No need to explain ... I'm familiar with the process and agree (that is, if our different terminology is not "masking" my understanding of your point). :)

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Swingman

BTDT ... two many times. :)

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Swingman

Certainly not.

Nope. It's you who doesn't understand what he's saying.

That's not what I said. Since you conveniently snipped it, I can only assume you're intentionally obfuscating what was said (read: lying).

Every day. I'm an electronics engineer, currently working in the audio industry, after 30+ years in computers.

You're doing a good enough job of that here. Stick to cabinets. You're really good at that.

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krw

You're, of course, completely wrong.

"Digital Music" (I assume you mean digitized music) is crap because that's the way it's recorded; compressed to hell and overly separated. Not because the format is poor (at least for the last 20 years).

...easier, so the hucksters had to move onto something else to sucker the audiophools. Monster cable.

When you use words like "colors" you merely show your audiophoolism. Physics isn't with you.

Good analogy. AGWers are much like the hucksters selling expensive crap to audiophools.

That we can agree on. Physics being a prime area.

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krw

Not true. There are a lot of things that can be done to mitigate noise. Do you buy the loudest car because it goes faster? The quietest because it gets better gas mileage?

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krw

IOW, with no experience whatsoever in making a living in the recording industry while both owning and operating a successful recording studio.

Get back to me after you've spent 20+ years doing that.

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Swingman

You've obviously never studied the science behind Nyquist or Fourier.

You can spout audiophoolery all you want, but it's just that.

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krw

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