If yer gonna stand there anyway and pump the gas, why would you want to jam the handle with a gas cap?
Now...more than likely, this thread will go on to talk about jam...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm good!
Have a nice week...
Trent
Certified breast self-exam subcontractor.
It's still there
Dick
The reason I don't patronize the self-checkouts at HD and my local grocery stores is twofold: a) I'm not as fast and accurate as the checker, and b) self-service checkout stands take away jobs. With jobs disappearing as fast as the U.S. budget surplus I don't think it's a very good idea to facilitate the process. Besides, why should I have to do the work when I don't get a discount?
I hate having to fill up in self-serve states.
Here in NJ, there have been a few pushes in the past (mostly by the oil companies) to get NJ to change the law prohibiting self serve. But it's been at least 15 years since they tried. I think this is because they discovered that it doesn't save them any money, and may actually end up costing money. Don't believe me?
Most gas stations around here employ 1 or 2 people at any given time to man the pumps. They usually have 6 or 8 pumps, that may or may not have a roof over the top to protect them from the elements.
Most self-serve stations I have been to in other states STILL employ 1 or 2 people at any given time, PLUS they have AT LEAST 8 pumps, sometimes 12, 16 or 20, usually much newer and cleaner WITH a room overhead. The roof and the newer facilities are to attract customers who don't want to be out in the rain pumping gas with dirty pump nozzles. They still need someone inside to take the money, BUT since customers pumping their own gas are slower than a station attendant pumping gas, they need more pumps, they need the roof, they need to maintain the pumps better - all this cost them money AND you still have to get out of your car when it is cold and get your hands smelly to pump your own gas.
But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
-Chris
This is just silly. The time it takes to stick the nozzle in the tank is insignificant, compared to the time it takes for the pump to deliver fifteen or twenty gallons of gas. Plus, it takes a *lot* more time to pay an attendant, than it does to just swipe a MasterCard in the pump. I try to buy all my gas at stations with credit-card pumps because it saves so much time.
-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
Have you ever been in "the line" to get gas at Costco? Usually it's some really sloooow person who pulls up, futzes around in their cab for a few minutes, comes to the pump and then fishes for their card, reads the pump directions over several times, places the card in the slot all four possible directions before getting it right, wonder why no gas dispenses and then proceeds to re-read directions, etc. etc. etc.
But you are correct otherwise, pay at the pump is so much more convenient that dealing with cashiers and lines inside...
-Bruce
Greetings and Salutations... In the spirit of contributing to "topic rot"...
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:00:25 -0400, Trent© wrote: *snip*
Hear! Hear! One of my FAVORITE things while growing up was a thick slice of homemade bread, still warm from the oven, slathered with a little butter and a LOT of Quince Jam. Talk about one of the few bright spots! Regards Dave Mundt
Boy, this is going downhill fast! Anybody tried any of that Kentucky Jelly?
We finally got a Krispy Kreme store.
Krispy Kreme raspberry filled.... Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Why do I fear that the two inches I've shed in my waist are about to come back?
is also a crime to speed in Maine. Do you EVER do that?
Dave Hall
I saw this on our news in CT. It did not happen here but they made a big deal about getting back into the car and getting out to take the filler out. Women are more prone to do static because of the stocking they wear. They also got into filling gas cans in the back of a pickup as fumes can collect there, just like when you fuel a boat.
I once picked up a nozzle from the pump, hit the start button and had gas spew out as the previous user jammed the handle in the "on" position. No damage, but it did stink from the spill.
As for the latch device, I know some states do not permit them, but a station in my town just got all new hoses and nozzles and they all have the latch. That is one reason I like that station. There pumps also have a higher capacity than many of the newer self serve models.
Keeping this on topic, I filled the tank so I could drive to the lumber yard to buy some wood. Ed
I don't. Hence the word IF. You know, the VERY FIRST WORD in my post. Re-read and try again you smug prick :-)
Self serve dispensers here in AZ are allowed to have locking nozzles. However, the nozzles must be self-shutoff when they sense back pressure (seems a more elegant solution than making folks -- especially older folks who may have arthritis or other ailments) have to hold a nozzle on while the car fills.
Silvan wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@giganator.family.lan:
Stay away from New Jersey then. Crazy legislators think people are too dumb to pump their own gas. (It's illegal)
NJBrad
From the Fifth Century B.C.E. we have the warnings of the Greek's about Hubris which became codified by Pope Gregory in the Fifth Century C.E. as Pride and so on to Shakespeare's warnings in the tragedies a thousand years later, so on to Raskolnikov and Dostoevsky's portrait of the self absorbtion that must become madness.
The common thread is that Pride is the progenitor of the notion that the other is as nothing in comparison to the self and that it can be objectified to the point where there is no obligation to acknowledge the other as part of the same world that the self inhabits.
This thinking allows the Hubrist to violate the commonly held beliefs of the society that he dwells in, at his whim, when it is these commonly held beliefs which describe society, and their violation is the basis of Sociopathy.
The primacy of Pride in the order of the Deadly Sins is not a mere description of its position in a numerical order but is rather a call to recognize it as the basis for all of the other sins.
It is then Pride which allows someone to claim as his own that which does not belong to him, in violation of any concept of morality that has been expressed in Western Culture for at least twenty five hundred years.
Seen in this way, this taking is not a small act. Although the sum may be small, the implications are vast.
Should we teach our children that stealing a small sum is of small consequence or should we teach them that stealing is wrong?
Regards, Tom Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
The self service only works for me when the only cashier has 10 people in line and the self serve is empty.
I hate standing in line to give some one my money.
So you say it works with any brand fuel as long as it is pay at the pump?? Cool..
Silvan wrote in rec.woodworking
Can't go wrong with some jalapeno jelly.
Apparently, the lessons of the late '90's concerning moral relativism in pervarication have spilled over to ownership :-(
-Doug
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