check this out....
Mother of all that I hold sacred....
This thing is only $180 CANADIAN! from Lee Valley...
And the sad thing is that some sucker will probably buy it....
well, it is obvious this guy is a clip artist since he also has
veritas detail chisels set...his price $333.35, Lee Valley Price $189.00
taiwan wooden smooth plane his price $79.99, Lee Valley price $52.50
*sigh* yet another blow to faith in man's innate decency...
I see this all the time on EBay. To bad, some knucklehead will probably bid
BTW, I have the plane and it is a very good tool.
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$139 US today on the Veritas website, and this Bozo (apologies to any
real life clowns) want $199US if you "buy it now"
And you're right, someone will buy it AND wind up paying $20 US
shipping as well
What a rip off
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:05:26 GMT, stickdoctor
What happens is that the seller buys it from Lee Valley and resells it to
the high bidder. Makes a quick fifty bucks. Unethical? Yes.
Lemme get this straight, a person buying something and selling it at a
profit is unethical? That's how every store on earth operates.
The only thing unethical about this is the use of Lee Valley's
Scott Post firstname.lastname@example.org http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost /
I don't agree with the unethical part. Seems to me I can buy and sell
anything I want, for what ever price I can get for it. Buyer beware!
If this is unethical, why is it NOT unethical for differant stores to sell
the same item at differant prices! If Amazon sells a tool for $500 it must
be unethical for the local hardware store to ask $550!
Hi Greg (and all in the above part of this thread),
Ethical standards differ, based on the (metaphysical) assumptions of
your particular ethical system.
It would be more worthwhile to discuss this in terms of legality. What
he's doing is perfectly legal and done by many resellers (with the
exception of using copyrighted images if he has done that...).
Ethically, I would ask what service he is adding to his source to
justify raising the price (and if the service is worth the
difference). The only argument I can imagine this character has is
that he offers the product in a venue the source does not (I'm
presuming LV does not sell on ebay. I may be wrong). So, by my system
of ethics what he is doing is dishonest and therefore unethical, but
I have over 900 transactions with no negative feedback.... :)
This type of posting to eBay happens frequently... we can only object if the
seller uses our images without permission, or clones our text. We do get the
auctions cancelled. If we find out who the seller is - we're also within our
rights to refuse to sell to them at all...
The most common "rip-off" on eBay using our products is the resale of our
"Stanley Conbination Planes Book"....
It's up there now, as I type...our price is $3.95 US ... the auctions
regularly finish for $7-$25 plus shipping...
Other than putting up the same items ourselves - there's not much that can
Doesn't seem like anything should be done. You can't stop buyers from
being uninformed about actual prices, and you shouldn't be able to stop
anyone from reselling what they have legitimately purchased.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant, I've been reading quite a bit about
digital rights management lately and it's making me a bit edgy about the
degree of control in perpetuity some businesses think they should have
over what they have sold. Rob, I know that this was not your intention,
your final statement just hit me as slightly wrong.
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