I am a router newbie but I want to use a router in a table and the 616
has dual bases. I think that would be best for. Any comments bad or
good about these 2 routers.
I was the person looking at the RYOBi and have taken everyone's advice
not to go that route. I will build my own table.
I've got two 621s - one in my router table and one for
handheld work. I also have a PC 691 but find I don't
use it much - too loud and the start up torque "kick"
is a hassle. It's also a lot heavier and cumbersome.
If you're going to put it in a router table the 621 has several
nice features that are very useful
1. variable speed - you will find that you'll use larger
bits in a table mounted router than in a hand held.
Larger diameter bits should be run at lower RPMs
2. the built in dust port allows you to catch most of the
chips right at the base of the unit rather than having
them fall into the cabinet and have to be sucked out
of a large volume.
3. a little more power. The 616 is listed as 1 3/4 hp
while the 621 is either 2 or 2 1/4 hp.
4. the fine height/depth of cut adjustment lets you sneak
up on the final cut in very small incrments yet
the gross height/depth mechanism lets you get
close initially - the "plunge" on the 621 is very
Don't know about the 616 but the 621 bit change only
needs one wrench - unlike the PCs. If you have
a table top insert that has changeable throat rings
you can change bits and collets all from the top of the table
The 621, when hand held has some advantages and
disadvantages. The base has two straight parallel
sides, each at a different distance from the center
of the bit. They're a lot easier to keep against a
fence than a round base. The 621 also has two
rounded ends - again at different distances from
the center of the bit - but I don't use them.
The main shortcoming of the 621 is that the base
is small. When doing roundovers around the
edges of say a table top, it gets really tippy near
and at the corners. There are several aftermarket
bases for the 621 that'll get around this problem.
Pat Warner has a great one that works with the
In general, any tool that does two or more things
usually doesn't do any of them as well as a tool
that is designed to do just one thing. There are
exceptions of course.
Hope this helps rather than adds to your decision
I have both routers, and I wouldn't be without either. I use a PC690 in a
router table. so I don't use either of the DW routers there. I would
probably use the 610 in the table if I didn't have the PC690. The soft
start, variable speed, and dust collection really makes the 621. It's height
adjustment is a winner also.
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 18:42:09 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
===================I have 4 seperate router tables... 2 regular tables (one is a stand
alone benchdog table the other is a table saw mounted one) plus an
overhead pin router and the 4th is a horizontal mounted table for
I have 610's mounted in every one of them....all dedicated to an
I use a PC dual based router for handheld work.. and most of the time
I use the regular NOT THE PLUNGE base...
I kind of like the 610... cheap and over the years have proven they
are capable units and trouble free....basically these were upgraded
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