I certainly applaud your ingenuity, but my "opinions" on this issue were
formulated having done literally thousands of pocket holes for hundreds
of face frames, and from what I see in the pictures, it is doubtful that
your current iteration would work consistently enough for what I do for
Two reference edges are ideal to keep the workpieces joined properly
during the operation, one usually supplied by the work surface itself,
and the other provided by the clamp, which the Rockler provides in spades.
Your current iteration does not provide that ability, although it could
if you do as Mike suggested.
And, what I consider the insurmountable weak point of your design,
having done that many pocket holes, and used many different clamping
system when doing so, I still question whether a sufficient amount of
clamping force to keep the pieces aligned when screwing them together
can be appliqued using that type of clamp,
The Rockler uses a screw type mechanism, which provides a tremendous
amount of clamping pressure.
Nicely done though, but for ten bucks I'd still opt for and buy the
Rockler in a heartbeat rather than try to make one ... which and once
again, and after all for the umpteenth time:
**_was the purpose of my original post_** :)
All that notwithstanding, and providing it works for you, well done!
C'mon guys ... the point of the PSA post is the ten buck price point
being a 54% savings off the usual retail of a useful item.
Just holding the damned thing in your hand will convince you that it's
worth ten bucks; and using as I described will convince you that it's
well worth the normal retail price if you do a fair amount of pocket
As far as making one ... if I had to buy more than a few at retail,
maybe. For ten bucks, no way in hell ...
If there's any doubt, check the prices on a suitable clamp that will
exert the same necessary force, for starters.
How about a thank you for the heads up. I ordered 2 online. 60 miles
round trip into Seattle for me so $6.99 shipping is a no brainer. Out
where I live in the foothills every peckerwood tourist drives 10-15
mph under the speed limit so I would just as soon stay off the road.
I know I could build one but for $9.99 I have to ask why?
I've been unimpressed by something's pricing and set out to build one of
my own several times. Occasionally, it works great. 30 minutes in the
shop and I've got a new tool/jig/whatever. More often than not, however,
it works out that I spend more time and money trying to copy something
than I would have if I had just bought the thing.
Never going to quit, however. The design part is fun and sometimes the
greater understanding from attempting to build one helps when using the
Still haven't decided if I want to copy the HF 1x30 belt sander to
"improve" it... I have one, but it would be nice to have something that's
easy to change belts on (that'll be the hardest part) and variable speed.
Oh well, I've got other things to do.
Agreed on both accounts.
Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
to on the woodsmith site came from. The jig plans/parts have been out of
stock... been so for a long time, maybe time to see if I can get a back
issue to get the plan.
Cataract surgery went well yesterday, seeing things I haven't been able
to see in a long time. But I am having some wierd vision coming and
going, but also some peripheral that I am not used to. Feels wierd.
It'll be a few days before I get in front of a saw.. Just not feeling
confident yet. I'd like to get my vision stabilized or used to this new
Nah. Just redesign the belt-changer for the existing sander. My Delter
1x30 is my most-used sander.
Another belief of mine: that everyone else my age is an adult,
whereas I am merely in disguise.
-- Margaret Atwood
Interestingly, minutes before reading your initial post on this, I was
reading a Rockler ad for this product and thought about getting it, then
decided nah, I already have too much stuff I don't use/need.
Then, I read your post and said, what the heck, seemed like a good deal
and I do like pocket joints. I went out and bought it, and a glue
spreader. Both quality products and well worth the small price.
Thanks for the tip...
PS, I also bought a new CS, went with Makita 5007MG, not just on your
advice though, I put it in my hand before buying it via the net. Your
advice was in the mix though. It felt better than all the other saws,
but I did want a laser light on the sucker... Oh well.
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
It self-aligns and holds the seem together without letting it slip
horizontally, much better than a pipe clamp. It also (especially with
the slip-nut upgrade) is much, much quicker than a pipe wrench. This
isn't a big deal if you have 4 pocket screws to drive, but if you have
25, 50, 250 and a deadline, this tool is invaluable and certainly *well*
worth ten bucks.
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