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A lot of time and effort was put into building that cabinet. It alone is probably worth the $150 CA. Looks like a good assortment of tools and accessories and that's a plus. IMO, bench top saws are not so appealing, so I would think the saw is the weakest amenity. As nice as the cabinet is, I wonder why the original owner selected such a saw. But then again, maybe his/her projects didn't require anything more. Further more, the owner most likely took good care of his/her tools, so the saw is probably in very good shape, despite it being "small".

For someone lacking a nice work station, with those amenities shown and having the funds, I would think a $300 price may be a good buy. As prices are now days, one would be hard pressed to build and acquire all of that for less than $500, I would think.

Sonny

That is not a bench saw, it's a 2HP contractors saw with a cast iron top, cast iron wings and a pretty nice bies-style fence. "King Canada" brand, late 90's. The tilt-up belt sander on the back is interesting, if unusual.

Rambling comments...

The cabinet is rough - both roughly built and well used - but looks pretty sturdy. Other than the cheap drawer slides on the big drawer, the others appear to be wood on wood. Of course that's easy enough to upgrade. I think it would take a lot of time and work to get that cabinet into "finish carpentry" shape. That router table definitely needs a new top, insert and probably router. Certainly doable.

Tools are questionable. It might be hard to find parts for the table saw. I did a quick search and while the King Canada website has a page full of "Buy Online" vendor choices, the half-dozen I tried don't show anything for a KC-10RC table saw. Since it's labeled as Taiwanese, it may be a "generic saw" with parts available if you can find a different but matching model, if you get my drift. But it is at least at 1/4 century old, so tracking down parts/part numbers might be troublesome.

FWIW it seems like King Canada now labels their tools as King Industrial.

I'm not of fan of anything Ryobi so I don't know about that router. The current Vega fences get mixed reviews and that one looks pretty beat up.

In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.

I think you are being quite critical. For a portable workstation, it's more than sufficient for finish carpentry and even fine furniture.

I know a fellow that does extremely fine woodworking with an old delta 34-670 (that I sold him when I bought my JTAS-10 back in 1996). I had replaced one of the stamped wings with a laminate router table with insert befores selling. He replaced the fence a couple years ago with a biesmeyer clone. Recently he used it when doing some volunteer work cleaning up the interior of an old Victorian to be used as a women's shelter, doing some fine finish carpentry.

What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).

And I think the same about your response.

I never said the saw itself wasn't capable of doing fine work. The only thing I said about the saw is that parts might be hard to find.

I was talking about the over all condition of the cabinet. IMO it looks rough and well used.

And I said: "That router table definitely needs a new top, insert and probably router. Certainly doable."

I too have replaced a stamped steel TS extension with a laminate (actually melamine) surface and aluminum insert. It sounds like we are in agreement there.

I too have replaced the fence on my Craftsman TS, using a Delta T-Square. As useful and important an upgrade as the router table. That item *may* need a new fence, It's sure looks well used and I've seen mixed reviews on current Vesa fences. We can't tell from the pictures, so that is another "if".

My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed to be replaced.

I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture.

I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.

I kinda like that belt sander with the open pulleys, cords looped all over, and nose sticking out making it a perfect trip hazard.

My OPINION. OPINION. OPINION.

It looks old and rough and well used over the years. I have zero experience with used prices for tools so cannot make any comments about what it would sell for. I have a 1992 or 93 Delta Contractor saw. Similar or the same as the saw shown in the pictures. Except this one looks a lot older. The cast iron wings look nicer, sort of, than my sheet metal wings on my saw. I say sort of because it is nice that mine are solid, while these cast iron have lots of holes in them. I would not be surprised if this saw is 5-10-15 years older than my saw. The Vega fence appears to be an upgrade. Like I have a Biesemeyer/Delta fence on mine. But the Vega is well used. I hate router tables in table saws. I want separate. But the big Ryobi plunge router probably is 15-20-25 years old and likely works. So you could probably build a separate router table for it and be happy. The belt sander motor contraption on the backside is interesting. I assume it is just hanging there for storage. To use it you pick it up and place it on top of the router table. I use my big 4x24 Makita belt sander in a homemade jig or in my Record vice. So the belt sander contraption would be good to have I guess if you did not already own a belt sander. As for the quality of the cabinets, they are functional I guess. No high quality was put into them. Functional shop cabinets. Fine OK. I built cabinets under my side table on my saw. Functional, cheap, painted white. No fine carpentry.

Personally, I would not BUY, PAY, for this table saw, router table, sander. If I owned it already or was given it, I would fix it up and put it in the outbuildings for rough use. I see it kind of as a project. Analogy: 1970s-80s Monte Carlo, Cutlass Supreme, Riviera. Cool cars, I thought. I'd love to have one to drive around. Be cool. If you found, bought several super cheap, and could do your own mechanic work, it would be fun to make a new, good one. Relive your youth and be cool again. But it would be worth less than the cost and time to make it.

Rationally, I can't imagine why anyone would want this saw. Its rough now. It will take a lot of work to make useful. And ten times that to make it functional and pretty and something you are proud of owning. I think you could use your time and money in better ways.

Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?

I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from getting new one. ;-)

I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.

re: Table saw/Router table combos.

In a semi-perfect world, combos wouldn't be needed. For folks like me with small shops, the combo is infinitely better than the other option: bench top/portable router tables.

BTDT. They S-U-C-K.

My solution: - Table saw, router table and "jointer" combo. I have a separate fence for the router table that has a port for dust collection.

Never mind, here you go - a close up of the hinges.

Without first-hand knowledge - I''ll say yes - based on - - a trusted old co-worker circa mid-late 1980's - who would rave about his little bench-top Ryobi planer - - back when they were a new thang .. .. this was a guy who built a round house - literally. .. just for the challenge. John T.

I'd say someone got a killer deal!!!

You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - -

Ryobi USED to build almost bullet-proof stuff. Just like Black and Decker USED to build.

Not sure about all of them but the router is a beast. The only other Ryobi I had from that time was a circular saw. It's been replaced several times so I guess it wasn't so great. I don't remember my problem with it though.

I have a bunch of the cordless tool. All of the weird tools. Some are quite good, for weird tools that aren't used very often. The work lights are awesome. I use them a lot when I'm working on wiring.

I use the heat gun pretty often but most of the other stuff, not very often much. I have the reciprocating saw but I got the Ryobi because I use one maybe once a year. Same with the angle grinder. I guess I treat most of the stuff like some use Harbor Freight. Ryobi batteries are very good and relatively cheap. I don't know about HF. The older stuff I had was absolute crap.

Was that for his steam engines? ;-)

A beast but you wouldn't want to drop it on your foot. I couldn't handle it freehand either.

Is that CARPET?

I saw that but the nose is still sticking out past the table, right at ankle height. It doen't have to be running to be a trip hazard.

I don't like the way the cords are dressed either. Too much to go wrong. I'd have dressed everything neatly in the cabinet where it couldn't get in the way.