Maybe one of you guys can offer some advice.
I need to build a countertop in our laundry room. I plan on using
3/4" particle board or MDF and applying laminate (formica or equiv) on
I want to have a rounded front - but not the small rise (lip) that you
usually see that keeps water running off. I will glue small piece on
the front and then round the edge with a router.
The question is, how do you get the formica to bend and form around
the rounded front without cracking? Do you apply heat or maybe I use
a materal other than formica?
I'm sitting at a countertop right now with a laminate top that has a wrapped
front. So, apparently, it can be done. If you don't know how, no one here
will make fun of you for saying so.
news:HEednVpALZHUavSiU-> > You don't, use a solid surface material.
A countertop factory can form it this way. However, the typical woodworker
can not produce this sort of radius with common tools.
Just because you can buy something doesn't mean that you can make it
What's special about the factory process that makes it hard to duplicate?
I'm not saying what you're saying is incorrect, I'm just curious how the
factory does it. With that said, I'd give serious thought if I was the OP
to purchasing a coutertop with the appropriate wrapped front.
I make all sorts of things that could be bought, however, there are
Care to machine a piston for your car on your trusty lathe? It is
Care to fabricate a CPU for your favorite computer... well, spend a few
billion and you can make one yourself.
As for the idea that everything good is made by someone you don't know, far
away, well that is idiotic. Why would this be true?
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:13:41 -0700, "Charlie Spitzer"
no you dont "buy it that way". You can buy a post-formed countertop
which has the edge rolled, but you cannot buy rolled formica, which is
what the original post referred to.
Rolling formica involves the application of considerable heat and it
has to be done so evenly. Cabinet shops generally have an electric
'heat bar' to do it with, something thats beyond most home ww'ers.
In any case, the material will not form to a radius thats much less
than 4" without difficulty, and under 2" its pretty much guaranteed to
Further, the original post reads as if the edge will just have a
(relatively) small roundover, and getting formica over it isn't
I'm only familiar with Wilsonart but I assume that the other
manufacturers have equivalent offerings. Wlsonart's standard product is
0.045 inch thick (type 107) and while I have bent it around some pretty
tight corners in thin strips with a heat gun and a lot of patience I
don't recommend it. They also have two other products type 335 and type
350. These are 0.028 and 0.039 inch thick. The type 350/0.039" is used
for post forming and is specified to bend to a 9/16" radius. They offer
a special post forming adhesive, probably better strength than plain
vanilla contact cement. I use it for edge banding when I have tight
radii to deal with.
Look through the Wilsonart web site using "post form" or "post forming.
The basic laminate spec sheet will give you most of the info.
On 18 Sep 2003 10:34:06 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (San_Diego_Flyer)
Postforming is a process that is done under factory conditions. It
uses heat and pressure in a way that is very difficult to duplicate in
a small shop environment. Also, postformed laminate is of a smaller
thickness than regular plam and may (I can't recall) have a different
formula for its makeup, to allow for the degree of plasticity needed
to form the curve.
Commercial level suppliers will sell you edge materials in the same
colors as the flat lam that will form the round you want when applied.
Check out the Formica website or Wilson Art's.
Tom Watson - Woodworker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
As Tom Watson stated this is something that really can't be done with
the average shop tools. Here is a link to what some of the machinery you
would need to do this with. This is some of the lesser expensive
equipment out. http://www.evansmachineryinc.com/postform.htm With this
you can do it at home, but there is still making the blank substrate to
put the laminate on. This one runs about $15K and it's manual.
ELM Woodworks, LLC
if it's for the laundry room why not buy a preformed counter top, cut it
to length, and slap it on YOUR cabinet? easy and relatively cheap.
they are available at HD and such.
Just to wrap of this thread, I've concluded there is no easy way to
bend the laminate around that small radius.
Thus, I'll take another tack -- I'll apply wood trim to the front
instead -- it will still look good.
Thanks for the replies.
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I had a similar problem with a tiled countertop in a bath. I didn't want
bullnose since it is just asking to be chipped. I found a Corian fabricator who
sold me some 1.5" strips he had in his scrap pile. I used RTV and some finish
nails with the heads cut off and countersunk into the back side to hold it on.
That came out great.
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