They are being advertised on TV as saving electricity. Now we all know
that adverts are all accurate and never lie. But how exactly do they
save electric? Or do they mean that customers can use the information
given to save it?
That's what I understand. TPTB expect you to look at the meter every
few minutes and run around switching off lights, phone chargers etc to
save a few watts. My impression is that most people pretty soon get
bored by them and stop looking, presumably reverting to their former
wasteful or otherwise behaviour.
Yeah. Save £40 something per annum, allegedly - having a larf there. Try
getting a wife and daughter (let alone yourself) to change habits for an
extended time. We all are used to consuming electricity, gas and water
in the manner to which we have become accustomed. Only when these
resources are unavailable will we change.
Maybe the reason for establishment encouragement of smart meter adoption
is so they can cut off supply to force prevention of resource waste.
Family X is consuming 1% more electricity/gas/water than the average for
their type - click, fixed.
I believe that the official figure has been revised to something like
£15 per annum. However the cost of the smart meter, for which you are
paying for in your bills, has to be factored in. Various recent
estimates put the cost of a smart meter at £400 per household.
That’s bullshit. I decided that it was mad to be pissing so much against
the wall with heating in the winter and changed to pissing much less
against the wall in winter, and that resource continued to be available.
In the good old days of electro-mechanical meters there was a nice big
wheel which you could monitor go around. You could see or measure
what happened when you put the kettle on, or as one did in those days,
switched on the electric heater. Which was all fine and dandy but it
didn't give alternatives to boiling the water or from being cold so
even in those days no money was actually saved.
Must be me, but how would any meter persuade me to switch off lights etc I
didn't need? Unless of course you make a habit of leaving things on when
not needed. And can't for the life of me see how a fancy meter would
*A fool and his money are soon partying *
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:19:06 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I think the whole "smart meter" crap was busted when someone asked if
they save electricity, why not use them for water, and save water. The
only reason that makes sense is if they don't save electricity.....
Not quite. instantly adjustable up, long-delayed down. Just like power
supplies and petrol/diesel at present.
That is an interesting Wiki article, though. I thought the examples
particularly informative, and a bit worrying: "The utility companies in
the state of Queensland, Australia have devices fitted onto certain
household appliances such as air conditioners or into household meters
to control water heater, pool pumps etc. These devices would allow
energy companies to remotely cycle the use of these items during peak
What is the point of having an air conditioner (or heater in cold
climates) if the electric company decides they will switch it off? It
would be bad enough not owning an air conditioner in a heatwave, but
actually having one and just sitting there watching it do nothing
because someone else is controlling it would be especially galling.
This is quite common in the States for A/C. For a reduced cost rate,
there is the option for the utility company to shut off the A/C power
for a period of time. In all the time we had this, we never noticed it
being switched off, so it was either for a short enough duration to be
un-noticeable, or was never invoked.
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