BBC 1 tonight 20.30 Panorama. Should be interesting.
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8 years ago
BBC 1 tonight 20.30 Panorama. Should be interesting.
Jolly good, I do so enjoy seeing the scheming Krauts being slagged off.
As expected, lies, damn lies and vehicle emission figures. Be interesting to see how long GM/Vauxhall can continue to play the denial game. Bet there will be a lot more companies caught too.
Tim
In this case sounds like somebody lower down made a bigger decision than their pay grade. However how is this any different to most cons in the land of only telling the public the good bits? Brian
The difference is that VW installed a "defeat device" in contravention of explicit legislation forbidding defeat devices. So it is not just a matter of advertising only the positive aspects. It is more like a market trader having his thumb on the scales.
Top posted for Brian. I don't buy the 'we didn't know nuffink guv' protestations from the upper VW management tiers. They nearly all have technical degrees, they must have known that they were producing impossible cars.
What I'd like to know is, how hard did Panorama have to try to find another cheating car? Needle in a haystack or shooting fish in a barrel? I strongly suspect the latter.
Also, why did they have to go to the Czech Republic to do the tests? Are UK testing companies being leaned on/threatened? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. If other motor companies are also doing the same thing (as Panorama's testing of the Zafira would suggest), why is it taking sooooo long to confirm this?
Tim
Quite!
Very suspicious indeed.
Unlikely given that we haven't seen anyone else waving around those shot fish since VW was exposed.
Most likely because it isn't that common.
Are you sure?
Yep.
Just because some journo claims something in a headline...
If there was a similarly major problem with the other car manufacturers, it would have been exposed by now.
Try reading the news now and then.
I still don't see how the car detected a test was going on. It would need to know the test was happening before the test started not after.
Bless!
Fuck off Rod
Damn. It's only a VW. Imagine how perplexed you'd be if it were a Smart car.
Ah, so you reckon GM went to a lot of trouble designing a cheat device
*just* for the Zafira, and for no other cars in their range?Seems exceedingly unlikely to me. What VW and GM can do, so can any other major manufacturer.
Tim
How odd that no one has actually measured any of them doing that after all this time, when its so completely trivially easy to measure.
Actually, it isn't.
Yes, if you call taking a vehicle off to the Czech Republic for testing "trivial". There are clearly people who don't want this investigated.
Tim
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