Am I reading this wrong?
If I buy a 3.5 litre V8 4x4 that's 1 year old, or a Nissan Micra that's 1 year old, both have the same £140 car tax?
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But the second tax payment onwards (which clearly means what you pay per year from when the car is 1 year old until the end of it's life) is listed on the link. It's £140 for any petrol or diesel car. So the same for a 1 litre engined car as a 3 litre engined car.
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They say "list price". So is that when it was made or what it's worth now? Because a used 4x4 costing under 40 grand will be decent.
Anyway, you're taking extremes. Consider a £6000 3 door hatchback with a 1 litre engine. Consider a decent family car costing £35,000 with a big engine which clearly uses way more fuel and wears out the roads way more than the little one. They both have precisely the same tax.
Mind you, I think they should abolish the tax altogether, after all, if you use twice the petrol, you pay twice the fuel duty.
I was just surprised to see them charge loads extra in the first year, then nothing extra later on. They used to just charge per engine size.
And then there's that silly EU scheme where manufacturers must produce a certain proportion of cars under a certain size. We really don't need ALL these things, just one of them. It sticks of paperpushers with nothing to do. Sack them all.
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About 6 weeks ago I bought a 63-plate Lexus RX450h which has a 3.5
litre V6 engine for almost Â£25k. The road tax is Â£140 but I thought
that was because it's a hybrid. Are you saying that ANY 3.5 litre car
is now Â£140?
According to that link, any car manufactured after Spring 2017 is, yes. You pay a huge (up to 2 grand) tax in the first year, but it's £140 after that.
Had you bought a non-hybrid version of your car on a 63 plate, you'd be paying from 0-535 quid a year depending on emissions. There's only £10 off for being a hybrid, anything else you get off it is due to you using less fuel (which I assume is directly related to CO2 emissions - why don't they just say "fuel consumption"? Everybody knows what the mpg of their car is, but the CO2 it gives out? WTF?)
That does make me laugh this hybrid bullshit, you save fuck all fuel with those. It's been shown that a diesel VW Polo uses less fuel than a hybrid Toyota Prius. Pointless waste of Lithium. ALL electric cars, fine, but hybrids are pointless.
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A diesel Polo will emit far more toxic material. Besides, miles per
gallon is the wrong measure when comparing petrol and diesel because
they have different energy densities. Miles per kilogram is the proper
Thats true, but these days its CO2 emissions matter and diesels emit less
CO2 than petrols for a given amount of power generated. Quite why is something
a chemist would have to answer. You'd think given that diesel fuel has a
higher percentage carbon content than petrol it would be the other way around.
On 03/04/18 11:31, snipped-for-privacy@cylonHQ.com wrote:
The conventional reason is that compression ratio gives a better
conversion efficiency from fuel energy to mechanical energy.
Diesel does have a higher percentage of carbon (relative to hydrogen)
and has a higher specific gravity. So even if the two engines had the
same conversion efficiency, the diesel would consume a lower volume but
a greater weight.
It would be good to know the correct values but take your pick from:
diesel 48.0MJ/kg 35.8MJ/l
petrol 46.4MJ/kg 34.2MJ/l
diesel 44.8MJ/kg 37.2MJ/l sg 0.830kg/l
petrol 47.3MJ/kg 33.9MJ/l sg 0.776kg/l
diesel 44.8MJ/kg 38.7MJ/l
petrol 43.5MJ/kg 34.6MJ/l
From first principles, wiki says graphite produces 32.7MJ/kg, hydrogen
120MJ/kg, hence petrol at 96:18 (relative weights of C & H) is 46.5MJ/kg.
Diesel centres around C15 which is 180:32, giving 45.9MJ/kg.
Shrug. No wonder politicians don't know how to tax them. But it should
be clear that part of the reason petrol engines need a bigger tank is an
innocent difference in the fuel.
This may be interesting from the scientific point of view - and
especially when weight is just as an important factor as volume (which
it is, say, for airborne transport). However, for road transport, so far
we pay only for volume.
We pay the oil companies for their costs in delivering the stuff to us:
their prices adjust the whole time and petrol is normally cheaper - by
volume. So their prices probably are a reasonable reflection of the
technical difference. It happens that mpg is always going to be simpler
and more convenient than miles per unit of fluctuating currency but it
still doesn't make mpg a good comparison.
But the government puts a tax on it. Most governments deliberately put
more tax on petrol than diesel, which inevitably improves diesel value
But making the bloody thing start costs more than the tax you save.
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In the short term yes, but NOx disappears from the atmosphere in a few hours
to a few days and particulates settle into the ground. If all traffic stopped
and factories and power stations shut down then the air over britain would be
pristine within days.
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