If we can have flat rate water (pay a fixed fee for as much as you use), why isn't the same true of electricity? Both cost the company more if you use more.
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If we can have flat rate water (pay a fixed fee for as much as you use), why isn't the same true of electricity? Both cost the company more if you use more.
and set the amount to be paid based on that of the highest domestic energy user.
Why on earth would they do that? It would have to be the mean (just like with water), otherwise the company would make a fortune for no reason.
It would be unfair to the low user to pay the same as a big user. I pay for the water I use above a minimum every quarter. Seems fair to me.
It would be no more unfair than flat rate water, which most people have. And it means you're not constantly thinking "I mustn't flush the toilet I can't afford it".
I'd hate to be in your situation, where you have to consider every water usage. I just freely use whatever I need.
We don't have a flat rate, we pay for what we use. The same applies to all utility services.
What is your flat rate and how is it determined?
Certainly would be rare in US and if ever so would be dependent upon being in an atypical situation regarding available supply and distribution.
Water (and sewage) is =A3360 a year (for both, not each). It's based on= the average a household uses. You're charged more for a larger house (= determined by value of house). My house is medium sized.
I fail to see why most of the UK has this system for water (saves the co= st of water meters, saves people worrying about how much water they use)= , but they don't do the same thing with electricity.
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I can understand metering in very dry desert areas where they want to conserve water, but you're not Australia. Isn't a large proportion of the USA where you can get water cheaply? You have huge lakes.
How do you go about your daily life? You must be thinking "can I avoid flushing the toilet, can I avoid taking a bath, can I avoid watering the garden".
But you fixed charge is £100 more than my usage charge!
Fixed totalprice electricity would result in everyone switching from gas to electric for central heating because it wouldn't matter how much they used which in turn would push up the price to supply everyone which would push up the average price the companies would have to charge.
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:02:21 +0100, alan_m wrot= e:
My total charge is even higher than the above if I got a meter, even if = I used almost no water. Having a meter costs money - making the meter, = fitting it, maintaining it, reading it, etc.
Clearly the gas should be flat rate too.
And if we used heat pumps, they're as efficient as gas is. I'm going to= switch to using one instead of my gas central heating, for two reasons.= One, it doubles as an air conditioner. Two, my gas central heating is= at least 20 years old.
And I wouldn't mind paying a higher average price if it meant not caring= about how much I used.
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There are forty =A3100 million notes in the Bank of England.
The price you pay for living in Scotland. You could vote in politicians that could make the companies give you a meter for no extra charge.
Don't forget that if Scotland goes nuclear then the cost of electricity would be so low that they wouldn't have to meter it.
Now where have we heard that before?
I don't want one, I use a lot of water. What I was after was flat rate electric just like the water, then I wouldn't be turning things off all the time. Come on, this is the 21st century, we shouldn't be short of energy.
Indeed, which is why I always choose the non-green option when buying electricity. I can, to some extent choose what power I'm buying. The green stuff costs extra.
From anybody with common sense. Nuclear is very cheap. Renewables are very expensive. The only reason solar power saves you money is the government pours your own taxes into it to keep the treehuggers happy. I was going to get solar panels installed on my roof, until the government reduced the subsidies, now they aren't economically viable, even though they're still partially subsidised, which means we simply shouldn't be using them. If things cost more to use, it's because they use more resources. Like recycling - everyone says it's a good thing, but if it costs more to recycle the plastic, that's probably because it uses a tonne of diesel to transport it, and a tonne of electricity to process it. So don't recycle it.
You are not looking hard enough for the best deals then.
Look at a map; where those lakes are is quite far removed from most of the US; much of the US has only subsurface water even if not desert...
Routinely; we write the electricity bill every month one of which includes the well...it is what it is. We irrigate quite a lot in summer as is a pretty low annual rainfall area (average ~16" per year).
It's a fact that green power generation does not make as much profit as nuclear or coal.
I guess there is ONE benefit of living on a soggy island then. Even if water prices skyrocketed, I could easily collect enough for me to use from my own land. Just from the gutters from the house roof would be enough for my consumption, and to save up to water the garden in dry months.
Perhaps one day we'll have nuclear fission/fusion everywhere and huge amounts of energy and we won't have to think how much we use.
Well possibly living to regret saying so, but when the off peak comes along, the generators still have to make electricity. So, if they can induce more people to use it when its off peak they can actually waste less money, and that way is to make it cheaper.
Likewise the opposite is true of cours. I guess it depends whether you are a carrot or a stick person as to how you interpret the thing. Brian
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