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Thanks for yet another irrelevant history lesson outside the period of relevance.

1/10 (you *really* must try harder).

Cheers, T i m

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T i m
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Yes, they are pretty good and we had half a bag between us yesterday in a large salad wraps.

But I don't 'prefer' them over many other alternatives, with different options providing better solutions in different circumstances.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Well, I'm just being guided by the scientists and farmers who should know what they are talking about (and *guaranteed* to have a better view on it all than you).

You really are stupid aren't you. Have you not taken any notice of the science and the farmers who are in agreement that we can't keep destroying the environment and habitats without giving / putting back.

Replacing margins and hedgerows, fewer massive monocultures / more crop diversity, re-wilding, moving to *plant based* (not animal based) foods ... ALL likely / targeted to help support / return native species that are currently being pushed out and make the areas more

*naturally productive and doing so sustainably*.

WTF are you talking about now? Any chance you could stay on some sort of logical / linear track or you will further expose yourself as a lunatic troll!

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Yup, and then we learned better and that's where we are now re meat, eggs and dairy re human heath and it's negative impact on the environment.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

I'm afraid not mate.

That is *another* problem yes, but not to be conflated with the waste of resources (land, feed, water) and the pollution involved in keeping more livestock than people on the same small rock.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

You're being guided by *some of* the scientists and farmers. I'm mildly surprised you didn't claim '97% of scientists and farmers', it has some history.

*Some* of the farmers an scientists.

In your dreams.

There's me thinking you were supporting the recent post on the alleged environmental damage cause by shipping. Was that a different T i m ?

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Spike

Subsistence farming *is* a waste of resources.

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Spike

It's *all* relevant to the land in question.

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Spike

It was also a good appetite suppressant, and, pipe smoking kept midges away. But, I haven't smoked since 1988.

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charles

But not to our current use or restoration to a 'realistic' timescale level of bio-diversity for the purposes of a sensible discussion.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Irrelevant when people don't have the choice.

Where they do, moving to a plant based solution is the only way forward.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Yes, SWMBO found that. At least it got her off the cigarettes.

She gave up around 1992. She deliberately went on a 10 day European coach trip without any of her pipes.

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Bob Eager

and a fair few people :)

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Robin

I think that's the reason many (young) girls took up smoking. ;-(

I should have taken it up when camping at Ft William! We asked one of the wardens at the site if he was a 'local' and if he had a cure for the midges ... he said yes and then pulled his sleeve up (displaying a load of bites) and added if he could find a cure he would make a fortune! ;-)

I've never smoked (never saw the point ... it stinks, is expensive, dangerous (fires), anti-social, wasn't affected by peer-pressure etc) but the Mrs did from quite young and stopped when it looked like we were going to be 'a couple' (30+ years ago now so a similar period to you).

Cigarette smoke / fumes used to make my eyes sting, cigar smoke / fumes used to make me feel sick whilst some pipe smoke could be fairly aromatic.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Traditional crop rotation used to include a year or two laid to grass and used for livestock grazing. That way they lots of nice organic fertilizer got deposited on the ground in the process (displacing more carbon generated as a result of the manufacture of industrial fertilizer and its transportation), and the livestock converted all that inedible grass into something nice tasty and nutritious.

A win win, that any sane vegan ought to support.

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John Rumm

Ah, that explains quite a lot.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Traditional in the UK and in some cases more likely.

Yup, we don't want any of that stuff thanks ...

Ah, the 'good old days' (well, unless you were 'livestock' that is).

Erm, I'm not sure you have yet grasped the whole 'not exploiting animals' (as lawn mowers or fertilisation units even) yet? ;-)

Cheers, T i m

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T i m
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FFS, get back on topic.

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Richard

Sorry John, seems like we're stuck with the other version. :(

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Richard

Well I did specify sane :-)

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John Rumm

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