v for frequency?

Mar 13, 2023 Last reply: 2 years ago 1214 Replies

Call me cynical but one of the early adopters of the metric system was the liquor trade. A common bottle size was a 'fifth', one fifth of a US gallon, which is 25.6 US ounces or 757 ml. The bottle quickly became 750 ml.

Trivial, unless you're bottling booze and those extra 7 mls add up to a 'free' bottle for every 107.

I don't drink beer but afaik a bottle of beer is still 12 US ounces or 355 ml. It's haphazard. I'm looking at a bottle of flavored water that is 17 oz or 503 ml both of which are odd numbers.

Yeah, it was the incredible shrinking fifth that I was thinking of. Soda goes the other way, with 2 liters being more than 2 quarts. I don't drink beer but cans of Monster are still 16 ounces (473 ml).

I wonder how much it has to do with production efficiency. I don't know if a 'fifth' bottle changed or if it was filled with 7 ml less. Changing a 12 ounce glass bottle or 16 ounce can would be a pita all down the line. 2 liter blow molded soda bottles would mean new molds but they're relatively inexpensive. The finish (neck) dimension stays the same and I don't know if you'd even have to change the preform.

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The bottling line would need a little tweaking.

You've got to think about volume. Those mils add up.

They've got nothing on the bakers.

Pre-metrication standard loaves in the UK were 1 or 2 pounds - 454 (1) or 908 grams.

When we went metric they should have course gone to the nearest value - a little larger, at 500 and 1000g.

Did they ****.

Keeping them almost the same, at 450 and 900, might have made sense - you don't want to have to replace all the tins.

But instead they went down to 400 and 800. I don't recall the price changing...

Andy

Yeah, they always have trouble with the notion of state sovereignty.

They add up for the bar. I don't drink enough for it to matter. In fact, I can't remember the last time I had beer in a bar or restaurant. I've always preferred to drink at home.

Many items in the grocery store have reduced in actual product but the container stays the same size. They think the people doing the buying will notice.

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A friend worked as a busboy at a Howard Johnson's. Not being math challenged he was appalled when he calculated what drinking a bottle of booze by the shot cost. HoJo's wasn't known for its generous shots so it could really squeeze profit out of a fifth.

It's been a long time so I'd probably succumb to sticker shot at the price of a well drink at the joints around town.

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It had slipped my mind so when I got a letter from the MT Dept. of Revenue last week my first thought was 'What do they want now?' It was a pleasant surprise to see a check for $1,250 as a rebate on my 2021 tax.

How many states have surplus revenue and actually give it back?

Getting the exact amount shown on the label, or slightly over, is a legal issue in the USA.

If you buy a hundred bags of potato chips and weigh them on a precise scale, which we did, none are below weight. And none are over by more than about half a chip. Most are over by less than half the average chip.

As pointed out I should have typed won't notice. While the weight on the package is changed to be correct, the box contains less than it did before. Some are not too noticeable like the Graham crackers. Inside there are 4 separate packages. Each package now contains one less cracker.

I'd rather they fixed the damned roads. There's a lot of that going on this summer, thanks to the infrastructure act.

You'd whine just as much if they raised the price and kept the contents the same.

You should see ours.

The road I'm on is about 4 metres wide - a little over 13ft - at minimum.

We have grain lorries going along it at this time of year. They're 38 tones, and about 3m wide.

At the end of the road there's a cross roads. It's quite hard for the lorries - sorry, that's English for what is a truck, specifically a semi-trailer in the USA - and they've chewed up the road. A lot. A third of the width is now effectively gravel. With a few foot sized chunks in it.

The roads people say "Urgent repair is scheduled". They haven't said when...

Andy

In the UK, a measure of spirit went from 1/6 gill (23.7 ml) to 25 ml. Still only enough to wet the inside of the glass.

I think it was 1/4 gill before WW1. Is this progress?

'Fixing' roads around here is a mixed blessing. They're big on chip seal. A few years back they widened and asphalted the road I live on. Either there is some sort of invisible jurisdictional boundary or they ran out of material and stopped a 1/4 short of where I live, leaving the 30 year old potholes. I have seen the county patch the potholes, generally when its well below freezing and the hot patch has zero chance of sticking.

Our politicians of both parties are very good at sucking the juice out of Federal funding. I've bitched about the two new rotaries I have to navigate to get to town; I think they're part of the fruit.

I don't know how they fill chip bags but I've worked with vibratory feeders in other contexts and they're pretty accurate.

Do I get to whine if they reduce the contents and raise the price simultaneously?

They use multiple bins where the contents of several are combined and dispensed into the bag after each of the bins are weighed.

There might be a dozen or more bins, each filled by volume to perhaps a quarter or fifth of the required weight. The computer weighs each bin and dumps the four or five which sum closest to the required final weight.

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